Beautifully sung from their heart. Thanks for sharing, miia.

Here it is from Carrie Underwood and Vince Gill. I will never get tired of hearing this sung!
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@carmel
Is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit worthy of all praise, honor and glory above all, in your opinion and do you love them with your whole heart, soul, and mind?

@NickHassan

We are persons made in His image.

@GeneBalthrop
For starters…John 5:19
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

John 8:16
16Yet even if I do judge, my judgment is true, for it is not I alone who judge, but I and…[Read more]

No, Nick…A divine person is spirit.

Hi Nick,
God is a person who is spirit.

@GeneBalthrop
Thank you for your patience.
you said:

Are YOU EVEN reading what i wrote? , i have acknowledged that GOD said, this is my beloved son hear you him. How much clearer can i get?

Yes, I am reading what you wrote and have concluded that you still do not know what the Father said to Jesus when He was baptized. He did not say “This is…[Read more]

@GeneBalthrop
Yes, perspective does spring forth our understanding of things, that is called our ‘bias.’ Do you believe that there are many wrong perspectives here on HN and that you have the right perspective?

you said:

See how your perspective comes in play, you are a CHATHOLIC, I BELIEVE, AND YOU ARE VIEWING things through their concepts, you…

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@kerwin
you said:

Interpreting it to mean beginning as in a sense of time is incorrect. Preeminent, chief, or both would be correct.

Have you considered that the ‘beginning’ is possibly referencing a position

that existed before the creation of God

and the One that existed in that position.

Do you see how the ‘beginning’ could be a position…[Read more]

@carmel
Who/what is the ‘word’ that became flesh in John 1?

@kerwin
So, do you believe in the pre-existence of the ‘person’ of Jesus since you believe that He is the Spirit of God who existed eternally?

@kerwin
Do you think that this verse is translated correctly with using ‘beginning?’ Do you think that should be ‘chief’ or ‘preeminent?’

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.

Hi @tigger

Matt 24

4And Jesus answered and said to them, “See to it that no one misleads you. 5“For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6“You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. 7“For nation will…[Read more]

Hi @tigger

Matt 24

<span class=”reftext”><b>4</b></span>And Jesus answered and said to them, “See to it that no one misleads you. <span class=”reftext”><b>5</b></span>“For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. <span class=”reftext”><b>6</b></span>“You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that…[Read more]

Hi @tigger

Matt 24

<span class=”reftext”><b>4</b></span>And Jesus answered and said to them, “See to it that no one misleads you. <span class=”reftext”><b>5</b></span>“For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. <span class=”reftext”><b>6</b></span>“You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that…[Read more]

Hi @kerwin

I apologize for mistakenly saying that ‘chief’ is an acceptable translation. I thought that I had remembered it being among the possibilities but no, if it meant ‘chief’ it would be a different Greek word with the Strong’s number 747 which is a masculine noun. The arche’ in Rev 3:14 is a feminine noun and Strong’s number 746. These are…[Read more]

Hi @Carmel

You are right, this thread is based on the word ‘Beginning.’

The ‘Beginning’ in which the creation of God took place is also the Amen, the True and Faithful Witness. Rev 3:14

NASB

“To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God, says this:

Hi @Carmel

You are right, this thread is based on the word ‘Beginning.’

The ‘Beginning’ in which the creation of God took place is also the Amen, the True and Faithful Witness. Rev 3:14

NASB

“To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God, says this:<span…[Read more]

@tigger

Once again, thank you for the time it took you to make your post. And, once again, ‘first’ is not an appropriate translation of arche’. I have also never seen it translated that way in any Bible in Rev 3:14. Do you know of a Bible translation that translates arche’ as ‘first’ for Rev 3:14?

God bless!

@kerwin,

Thanks for your explanation. So, are we in agreement that Rev 3:14 is NOT saying that Jesus is the first creation of God when He is called the ‘beginning of the creation of God?”

Also, you are correct that ‘chief’ is an appropriate translation of arche’ among a few other words like: origin, beginning, ruler, etc. The use of the word…[Read more]