@lightenup
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
Mankind was made in the image of God…fact. That happened and the results continue. All of mankind before and after the fall were made in the image of God at the time He first created them male and female. People treat each other poorly when they forget that the person they are treating poorly was not also made in the image of God.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
@kerwin
What is your scripture that tells you that man stopped being the image of God when sin entered the man?Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
@NickHassan
No.Lightenup replied to the topic How Great Though Art in the forum Chatroom 11 years, 2 months ago
Beautifully sung from their heart. Thanks for sharing, miia.
Here it is from Carrie Underwood and Vince Gill. I will never get tired of hearing this sung!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLLMzr3PFgkLightenup replied to the topic How Great Though Art in the forum Chatroom 11 years, 2 months ago
Beautifully sung from their heart. Thanks for sharing, miia.
Here it is from Carrie Underwood and Vince Gill. I will never get tired of hearing this sung!
<iframe width=”560″ height=”315″ src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/pLLMzr3PFgk” frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen></iframe>Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
@carmel
Is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit worthy of all praise, honor and glory above all, in your opinion and do you love them with your whole heart, soul, and mind?Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
We are persons made in His image.
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
@GeneBalthrop
For starters…John 5:19
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.John 8:16
16Yet even if I do judge, my judgment is true, for it is not I alone who judge, but I and…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
No, Nick…A divine person is spirit.
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
Hi Nick,
God is a person who is spirit.Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and GeneBalthrop only in the forum Debates 11 years, 2 months ago
@GeneBalthrop
Thank you for your patience.
you said:Are YOU EVEN reading what i wrote? , i have acknowledged that GOD said, this is my beloved son hear you him. How much clearer can i get?
Yes, I am reading what you wrote and have concluded that you still do not know what the Father said to Jesus when He was baptized. He did not say “This is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
@GeneBalthrop
Yes, perspective does spring forth our understanding of things, that is called our ‘bias.’ Do you believe that there are many wrong perspectives here on HN and that you have the right perspective?you said:
See how your perspective comes in play, you are a CHATHOLIC, I BELIEVE, AND YOU ARE VIEWING things through their concepts, you…
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
@kerwin
you said:Interpreting it to mean beginning as in a sense of time is incorrect. Preeminent, chief, or both would be correct.
Have you considered that the ‘beginning’ is possibly referencing a position
- that existed before the creation of God
and the One that existed in that position.
Do you see how the ‘beginning’ could be a position…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
@carmel
Who/what is the ‘word’ that became flesh in John 1?Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
@kerwin
So, do you believe in the pre-existence of the ‘person’ of Jesus since you believe that He is the Spirit of God who existed eternally?Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
@kerwin
Do you think that this verse is translated correctly with using ‘beginning?’ Do you think that should be ‘chief’ or ‘preeminent?’I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
Hi @tigger
Matt 24
4And Jesus answered and said to them, “See to it that no one misleads you. 5“For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6“You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. 7“For nation will…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
Hi @tigger
Matt 24
<span class=”reftext”><b>4</b></span>And Jesus answered and said to them, “See to it that no one misleads you. <span class=”reftext”><b>5</b></span>“For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. <span class=”reftext”><b>6</b></span>“You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
Hi @tigger
Matt 24
<span class=”reftext”><b>4</b></span>And Jesus answered and said to them, “See to it that no one misleads you. <span class=”reftext”><b>5</b></span>“For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. <span class=”reftext”><b>6</b></span>“You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
Hi @kerwin
I apologize for mistakenly saying that ‘chief’ is an acceptable translation. I thought that I had remembered it being among the possibilities but no, if it meant ‘chief’ it would be a different Greek word with the Strong’s number 747 which is a masculine noun. The arche’ in Rev 3:14 is a feminine noun and Strong’s number 746. These are…[Read more]
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