Hi Jodi,

You:

Colossians 3:24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ. 25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

1 Peter 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

Me: We went all over the first part tooth and nail already.

You:

1 John 2:24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

You wrote: 

2 Corinthians 5:6-9
6 So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord. 7 For we walk by faith, not by sight. 8 We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord. 9 Therefore we make it our aim, whether…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

2 Cor 4:14 Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus, and shall present us with you.

Me: As I have shown, we are raised up spiritually with Christ now with the earnest of the spirit and completely at our deaths. We are raised up by Christ through the spirit of God that raised him up. We are not…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

1 Thes 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which “rest” in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not “precede” them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from he…[Read more]

Hi Anthony

You:

II Corinthians 5:6-8
“Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, while we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.”
For many people what the phrase “to be absent from…[Read more]

Hi All,

Here are a couple of clarifications need.

First, I had written two posts up on September 9, 2018 at 3:22 am.

2 Cor 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: 7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) 8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from…[Read more]

Hi Jodi and All,

Acts 17:17 Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him. 18 Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

2 Cor 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: 7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) 8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord…9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

Matt 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Rev 14:4… These are they which follow the Lamb…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

1 Cor 15:40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

Me: A theophany the appearance of God in a burning bush, angelic form, etc. God was always worshiped when he presented himself as so. The physical body of Christ is no more. Christ is…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: Receiving the Holy Spirit when you are alive we are specifically told what that means, you are given gifts of the Spirit, some to speak in tongues, some to prophecy, some to heal, etc..

When they received this Spirit it didn’t make them immortal, it made them messengers of God with the purpose to bring people into faith, so t…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

Here are the scriptures you have not reconciled with your paradigm.

John 11:25 I am the resurrection…26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

2 Cor 6:2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted t…[Read more]

You:
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.
Notice TC at Christ’s COMING those that are his are raised from being dead.
Please exp…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: When they received this Spirit it didn’t make them immortal, it made them messengers of God with the purpose to bring people into faith, so that they could be counted worthy of the resurrection at Christ’s coming

Me: Again, you have read me wrong. I never said we are immortal when we receive the holy spirit. I have always said tho…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

Once upon a time, I used to believe like you do, that we inherit eternal life at the coming of Christ, i.e. at the resurrection into life. What you been regurgitating here is nothing new to me.

You: You have not produced a scripture that says the dead saints came alive without bodies and went to heaven. Neither have you produced a…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You:  TC….There has not been any resurection taken place but Jesus, the rest of the chosen raise to meet the lord at his coming. That is the firstfurits, of them that sleep the sleep of death.
Anthony has it right brother.

Me: Nope, you both have it wrong.

1 Cor 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward th…[Read more]

Anthony,

I never said that the soul lives on.  I said that the soul dies.  The holy spirit lives on.

Hi Anthony,

The saints that died before Pentecost, and those that died after Pentecost do not sleep in the dust of the earth from Pentecost.  They are with the Lord in heaven.  They receive new bodies at Christ’s return.

Hi Anthony,

All truth which you have stated–with one condition.  This is before Pentecost–even those saints that were awakened from their “sleep” at the time the of Christ’s death (Matt 27:52).

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Me: Click on the link below.  Then click on 530 above “once”.

Sh…[Read more]