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    Quote (gollamudi @ Feb. 08 2011,11:48)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 08 2011,14:55)MIke…………..Wrong, Jesus was a son of ADAM and as i recall he did not sin, But see how your confusion causes you not to even believe Jesus was the Son of Adam and Yet without sin. Mike it say sin entered into the WORLD through ADAM, it does not say we inherited…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 8 months ago

    Adam,Where is it written that “”he was found in the likeness of our sinful flesh””?

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    Mike Boll,I agree that we inherit sin but it comes from both the mother and father since both Eve and Adam sinned.   Adam can be said to have the greater responsibility as the one in authority but that does not exonerate Eve of her actions.  Why I say that the sinful spirit, aka the inclination to sin, is inherited from both sides is because b…[Read more]

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    Mike,Scripture declares Jesus is a son of Adam, Luke 3:23-38.  More specifically he is the Son of Adam, i.e. man.    I believe you are speaking of a male only ancestry and thus is virgin conception eliminates that connections.That fact is not relevant to why Jesus did not choose to sin.   If you read Galatians 5:16 it specifically states those who…[Read more]

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    Irene,The Gnostiics also backed up their beliefs with their interpretation of scripture.  Does that mean they were correct?What is the spirit of God's Word?When you understand that then perhaps you will begin to understand why Jesus could have no advantage over every other human being that could not be attained by each and every other human…[Read more]

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    Irene,You accuse me of sin because you believe my beliefs are in error while I believe your beliefs are in error.  That is the beam I was speaking of.  Instead I find it is better to point out why you believe another is in error than stating the obvious which is that you do not believe as they do.I simply do not understand the scriptures you c…[Read more]

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    Gene,Georg may not know of the central Gnostic beliefs. One thing they believe that George also believes is that the mind is the spirit. I believe the Gnostics were referring to their hunt for the knowledge that they were one part of the Godhead, a corruption of the Unity of the Spirit. The Gnostics also held that flesh is corrupt and so…[Read more]

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    Irene,If you choose to take you own words as an insult when applied to you then why say them to others.  Isn't a Christian supposed to do onto others as they would have done to them.Were you instead expressing your own confidence in what you believe as I was expressing confidence in what I believe.  I freely admit that I do not believe you or y…[Read more]

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    Pierre.It is true that many a charming individual is not an honest one; no matter how clever their words are.It is also true that our actions testify to our faith.On those two issues I have no disagreement with you.

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    Pierre,I understand that you believe in a God of confusion for that is what an ilogical God is by definitiion.  I on the other hand choose not to believe in such a God.   Never the less I did not state anything about logic, though being rational I chose to use it.   I simply applied the teachings of Jesus that you do not like hearing.  You lik…[Read more]

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    Thankful,I have reached a conclusion that is true to the the definition of resurection and therefore to God. That is enough for me at this time so I have gone on to other topics. Perhaps, I will be drawn back at a later date. God knows but I do not.

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    George,Like Irene you need to take the beam out of your own eye before attempting to take the beam out of another's as it is God that is our God and not scripture.    Jesus warned us of making Scripture a false idol when he taught those who  diligently studied scriptue that though they studied the testiment of God they failed to come to his So…[Read more]

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    Pierre,Do you believe the body of Jesus was immune to the effects of age?Consider what scripture means when it states creation will be liberated from its bondage to decay.I do agree that a man who does not sin even though tempted as we are will not die but will instead be transformed at a time set by God.Reference:Romans 8(NIV)21 that the creation…[Read more]

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    Pierre,You should learn to understand that mortal flesh is corrupt as it was not created to be mortal.  You were most likely thinking of the wrong definition a for “corrupt” as I believe you already know what I just wrote.  Such errors do happen.

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    To all,None of the choices seem to fit what I currently believe as I believe the Holy Spirit is a force of God but is also a part of God. I also pelieve it has characteristics of a person but is not a person in its own right.Still, I am still learning.

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    Irene,Please take the beam out of your own eye before attempting to remove the spec from your brothers.  Scripture explicitly states Jesus is presently and was a human being even while in the corrupt flesh.You choose to believe differently and so you like me will be accountable before God for the choices you make while in the corrupt flesh.…[Read more]

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    Ludwik Kowalski,The answers I can give yo to some of your questions are as follows.God did create human beings in his image but they sinned and fell from his grace. I have only historic eye witness accounts of this since we are currently, and have been for a long time, in the fallen state. I trust these observers to be faithful and true.We did…[Read more]

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    Ludwik Kowalski,My God and my doctrine instructs me to at peace with all others to the extent that it is possible without sinning. I see the supernatural world as an extension of the natural world and both can be studied with the scientific methodology. The difference is that eye witness accounts are the major source of data about the…[Read more]

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    Irene,Sorry I missed that you wrote:Quote Also I gave you Rev.19 and asked you if there is any other being that fits that description?God bears the title Word of God because he is the living embodiment of his own Word even to an extent that exceeds Jesus as God cannot be tempted by evil.  The Spirit of God bears the title because it carries out…[Read more]

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    Pierre,Yes, since you can only understand it, and so aplly it, if you are lead by God.

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