Hi t8,

YOU:

7. he is the beginning
8. and the firstborn from among the dead,

ME:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence (first place).

he that is the beginning is such as it relates directly to him being firstborn of the dead, that in…[Read more]

Hi t8,

VERY simple,

YOU: The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

ME: The verse prior is speaking of the man who shed his blood, the man who was sitting at God’s right hand at the time Paul wrote Colossians, he was the man who God perfected having learned obedience, “he” is the image of the invisible…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

I want to discuss further what you said exactly,

YOU: Jodi do you think that you are equal to Jesus Christ?

ME: Jesus is my master as God gave him dominion over all the works of God’s hands. The Son of Man is sitting at God’s right hand preparing a place for me. When the Son of Man returns I will follow his guidance, he is my…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

Me: Jesus is a child of God as we are to be a child of God,

You: Jodi do you think that you are equal to Jesus Christ? Was you born of a virgin, with God being your literal Father? Are you the Messiah. Was you born with the nature of God or the nature of the first Adam. Are you the Us in Gen. 1:26 ?

And God said, ‘Let Us make man i…[Read more]

Good Morning All,

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Ezekiel 25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your…[Read more]

To ALL,

Many examples we have of God’s WORD that had been WITH Him before the world was that He kept in Him until the time He determined for it to be fulfilled. 

Many examples we have of God’s WORD declared before time began, becoming TRUE in the FLESH of Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of David.

God’s word that had been WITH him before time began,…[Read more]

To ALL,

THE END that God our Heavenly Father declared FROM the beginning, before the world was.

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be…[Read more]

Hi TC,

YOU:Heb 1:5-6 was written long after the Messiah had ascended into heaven and had resurrected from the dead and glorified in heaven. So how could Christ become the son of God much later after his resurrection and glorification into heaven? Did he have to go back Jordan. Please Gene, you are not talking to idiots.

ME: TC Hebrews is quoting…[Read more]

Ed J,

You:

What are you trying to say then? That
Jesus is claiming he is not “Christ”???

Is that what you are claiming?

ME: I am claiming that David knew that his son would be the Christ, the Son of Man anointed with God’s Spirit, the Son of Man that came to save that which was lost.

For you to ask me if I am claiming that Jesus is not the…[Read more]

Anthony,

I am not judging anyone, I am speaking of scripture, it is Jesus that judges the quick and the dead.

Jesus was MADE, 

Romans 1:20 Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse;

Acts 2:36 Therefore…[Read more]

Anthony,

YOU:Jodi there’s all kind of scriptures that speak of men, women, and Angels worshipping Jesus Christ. Your on words condemn yourself, you don’t worship Jesus Christ like those did in scriptures, so I’ve easy if I was you. See Jodi He’s just not a man. Worship Him, praise Him. The Messiah!

ME: Anthony I worship Jesus as the Messiah…[Read more]

Carmel,

ME: that God would MAKE David’s son into His firstborn.

YOU:Yes, BUT NOT THE CARNAL SEED, THE ACTUAL SPERM OF DAVID, BUT

THE SPIRITUAL SEED, HIDDEN IN THE SPERM OF DAVID. THE SPIRIT GIVES LIFE, the flesh counts for nothing! FOR GOD.

ME: First you have the son of David, then you have God begetting him, it is an anointing of God’s S…[Read more]

Anthony,

Jesus was not just a creature that God had made, He was the human who God made the world through and for, as Jesus is the firstborn of the dead of many brethren. God had declared that END from the beginning, before He even made humans, He had a plan for them.

That is WHO he is, and being firstborn of the New Creation, the new heaven and…[Read more]

Ed J,

YOU: Jesus was God’s Son according to many, many, Scriptures, not Joseph’s.

ME: We are not debating over whether or not Jesus was God’s Son, good grief. We are debating over the definition of what makes Jesus God’s Son.

You deny God’s promises, you act as if they don’t exist as you do not apply them directly where they are to be appl…[Read more]

Ed J,

I never assumed you believed that Joseph was Jesus’s biological father, I knew full well that you didn’t.

Hi Ed J,

YOU:For instance the bible says: Mary was a virgin and as a virgin she conceived.
You somehow believe that Joseph’s sperm got into her, when the bible doesn’t say that.

ME: What the bible says is that the GENESIS of Jesus comes from Joseph and that Mary conceived through the power of the Holy Spirit. That directly tells you that it had…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

You: In the above Satan himself declared that Jesus was the Son of God, hence God as Man, 

ME: the Son of God never in any scripture is stated as God as Man.

What you have stated is a direct lie against what scripture tells us,

Romans 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man,…[Read more]

Anthony,

This is what I recently just said on another thread.

David called Jesus his master because David was given prophecy, where he saw in the future God being mindful of his son, God coming and visiting his son, begetting his son of God’s Spirit, making him a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death, and then raising him from…[Read more]

No Ed J,

This is not resolved.

What this is is truly ridiculous.

Man was not yet alive to hear of the promise that God had made before the world was made. Obviously. 

The promise was still spoken by God, it was still His word that was WITH him, before He did give it. 

You are missing the POINT, or you just don’t want to discuss it.

1 Paul, a…[Read more]

Anthony,

God is Spirit and His Spirit is the source for Wisdom, Understanding, Knowledge, all that is good, patience, kindness, love, etc..

Man without the mercy of God sharing His Spirit upon us, we would be nothing but a natural brute beast, men with no self control, out to devour only serving our own flesh.

God can SHARE His Spirit, He asked…[Read more]