Anthony, you clearly deny that Jesus is of the FRUIT of David’s loins, you deny God’s word that the offspring of Jesse God would call to righteousness and rest His Spirit upon him so that he could be a covenant. The one who saves us from our sins is a HUMAN, the one returning so that we can be joint heirs with him, being an heir of God as he is,…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

You can create some theory about some special womb all you want. I am going to stick directly to scripture and believe what it says, Jesus is a HUMAN and his GENESIS comes from the stock of Abraham, David, and Joseph. GENESIS and Genea DO NOT equate to “adoption”. Likewise it is God Himself, by His wisdom, who distinguished how a…[Read more]

NOW how can we relate the above from my last post to David saying that he called his own son his master?

David was a prophet, God gave him the future.

David saw that his son’s flesh would not see decay, even though he was to die. David saw God raise up the body of Jesus and make it incorruptible.

David said, “Therefore did my heart rejoice, and…[Read more]

YOU:Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam???

ME:  Ed J, the context of Jesus being called the Last Adam and the Second Adam, which means Last HUMAN, and Second HUMAN, is in reference DIRECTLY to Jesus’s RESURRECTED BODY.

The BODY Jesus had prior to his resurrection was the SAME BODY that Adam had, which was of MORTAL…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

YOU: Then you agree that Jesus is saying here that Christ is David’s master, right?

Me: Christ is not only David’s master according to Jesus, but it is well known from scripture that Christ is master over all people. 

Hi Ed J,

COMMAS are added to the text at the translators discretion.  The oldest copies of the NT had no punctuation. So the argument you are trying to make is bologna. Actually in you bringing this up serves my argument even better.

The very FACT that we are being given the GENESIS of Jesus that leads all the way up to Joseph and then a…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

In Matthew we are given the lineage of Joseph through Joseph’s father.

In Luke we are given the lineage of Joseph through Joseph’s mother’s father, as it is custom apparently by many examples in the OT that a son’s mother’s father is declared.

Ed J,

Your question was already answered, we had moved on to me asking you as to WHY David called Jesus his master. 

I gave you the reasons why David called Jesus his master and have asked if you agree to what I said. 

You call that bouncing around??

Ed J please explain, because this is getting absolutely ridiculous.

ME: WHY does David call h…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

YOU:

Hi Gene

Gene you neglect to see what these scriptures are saying that the one that these scriptures are talking about is Jesus Christ, the one that John the Baptist ushered in, and the one that everyone will bow too and everyone will confess to.

ME: 

8 Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the…[Read more]

Carmel,

1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, 2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered. 3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

I was reading your replies a few pages back and want to follow up.

You said that God as man is taught in Isaiah 45, so I would like us to look at Isaiah 45 and also some of Isaiah’s other passages. Please respond by speaking specifically of these passages.

Isaiah 45,
14 Thus saith the LORD, The labour of Egypt, and merchandise of…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

In the OT we see many times when a son is being spoken of, there being a point made to list their mother’s father.  

Such is what I believe we see in Luke 3, we are being given the lineage of Joseph according to his mother’s father. Heli is the father of Joseph’s mother and in Matthew we are given the lineage of Joseph through his…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

What does your family tree look like?

You have a mother who has 2 separate lineages coming from her mother and her father.

You have a father who also has 2 separate lineages coming from his mother and his father.

We have two different lineages that are for Jacob given to us in Matthew and in Luke.

All things being considered the…[Read more]

Ed J,

WHY does David call his own son Jesus his master?

Because David’s son is the firstborn of the dead who God gave a portion to among the great, and gives him dominion to divide the portion, as was prophesied,

Isaiah 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath…[Read more]

Hi TC,

John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were DEAD, yet shall he live:

TC, Jesus died for all, all are to be resurrected, some are resurrected to eternal life where they will never taste death again, the second death has no power over them.

John 8:51 Verily, verily, I say…[Read more]

To All,

Hebrews 5:1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins: 2 Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity. 3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the…[Read more]

Hi t8,

YOU:

I see.

For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

The context here doesn’t change the truth that he was the Christ even way back then.

ME: No, t8, what you are doing is ignoring the context the verse is suppose to be understood through. You are ignoring the truth that is given, you are f…[Read more]

TO ALL,

This is that which occurs time and time again on this forum.

Brother Gene and I apply what is given TRUTH to a passage according to the sum of God’s word, but we are being told that TRUTH is not to be applied to this scripture or that scripture, even when the very surrounding CONTEXT of this scripture or that scripture equates to the…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

CAN you properly RESPOND to this post?

Anthony, is it true that Moses counted Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob living as according to a resurrection?

READ,
Luke 20: 36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. 37 Now that the dead are raised,…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

Did God give David prophecy? YES!

Did that prophecy contain David’s own son? YES!

Was that prophecy IN God, WITH Him before the earth was made? YES!

Was Jesus of Nazareth, the son of David, IN that prophecy that was WITH GOD before the earth was made? YES!

Did God MAKE David’s son who the people crucified both lord and Christ?…[Read more]