Jodi replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 8 months ago
Hi Anthony,
Once again you deny straightforward scripture,
the prophecy was concerning the actual seed of David,
the one to receive and eternal throne was to be of the seed of David,
of the FRUIT of David’s loins our Christ sits on God’s throne,
Paul tells you directly that Jesus the Christ is OF the offspring of David and is God’s Son…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 8 months ago
Hi TC,
YOU: In order for the Messiah to have had fullness of truth in him, he had to have the fullness of the spirit of God in him. The Messiah had the fullness of divinity in him from conception.
ME: This is proven as absolutely FALSE according to direct scripture, Jesus was not in the form of God not having been anointed with the Holy Ghost…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 8 months ago
Hi Anthony,
You have no clue who Christ actually is and you have created some of the most absurd doctrines I have ever heard.
YOU:The fetus that grew in Mary’s womb was NOT a descendant of Adam and Eve (it would have inherited sin), but from a sinless God in heaven.
ME: Anthony God cannot be tempted, but Adam could be tempted, so how does t…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 8 months ago
Hi Anthony
YOU:You: The conception of Christ. When the Father caused His conception to occur in the womb of Mary (John 1:14), it was not Mary’s physical ovum that was engendered to cause Christ to become “flesh.” Christ became the seed of Mary (the woman of prophecy) by means of a heavenly-created ovum placed in Mary’s womb, which was then im…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 8 months ago
To All,
1 Peter 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 8 months ago
Hi TC,
ME: clearly Jesus was speaking in verse 51 of the second death; otherwise you make Jesus into a liar.
YOU: NO, You make yourself a liar. The second death clearly brings life, not death.
John 8:51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
to expound on John 8:51:
“Never see death means from n…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 8 months ago
Hi t8,
You are not understanding at all what I am saying. You are seeing things at a surface level and you need to think deeper.
I have said multiple times now, that each individual has freedom to make choices.
I am and you are free to think and make decisions/choices based upon our own thoughts and act on those thoughts.
The very word…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 8 months ago
Hi Ed J,
Show me where I say I believe better than the bible?
I gave you the original WORD that SOME translators gave as “free will”.
the original word’s definition is to volunteer, which does NOT in anyway make what I am saying against scripture any scripture.
Man makes choices based on influences, of which are stored in our memories of which…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 8 months ago
Hi Ed J,
Ezra 7:13 I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.
freewill Transliterated Word
N@dab (Aramaic)to volunteer, offer freely
(Ithpael)
to volunteer
to give freely, offer freelyNot all translations…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 8 months ago
Hi Ed J,
ME: Definitions 1 and 2 tell you directly that free will does not exist,
it is absolutely impossible for someone to commit an act or make a choice that is independent of influences.YOU:
1) Not so
2) Oh yea, I can make a phone call: calling someone without them influencing me to do so.
How do you account for that?ME: Ed J, you are…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Good Morning Ed J,
YOU:
Hi Jodi,
1. the ability to act and make choices independent of any outside influence (Link)
2. the ability to decide what to do independently of any outside influence (Link)ME: Ed J, we need to differentiate between a person being able to make their own choices, where we know that a person makes a choice themselves,…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Hi Ed J,
If two people are going to agree or disagree on whether or not free will exists, one must define “free will”.
Could you give us a definition of free will?
For me to believe that free will exists for a mortal human, I would have to be convinced that there are absolutely no factors outside of a persons control that affect a person’s…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Hi TC,
YOU:
YOU: The Messiah was not like us in every way or he would have sinned because sin and death would have been in his flesh.
ME: The Messiah was anointed with God’s Spirit such is what Messiah means anointed, he was a man just like us, but God CALLED him to righteousness, God anointed him with His Spirit without measure.
RECALL TC…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
t8, YES it is clearly written that the word became flesh. God’s word was of a man being anointed and that became true in the flesh of Jesus.
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
t8, was it NOT God’s WORD of Isaiah 11,…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Hi t8,
“he” that CAME in the flesh to the people, came to the people we are told beginning in Galilee, and “he” we are told was SENT to the people because the Spirit was upon him because he had been ANOINTED to preach God word, deliver captives, heal..
You t8 change who the “he” is.
The “he” is Jesus who was anointed and sent out where…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Good Morning All,
WORDS that one speaks whether they be many or few should not be a point of concern, it is whether or not the words spoken are true in the light of God’s word.
Acts 1:21 Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, beginning from the baptism of John, unto that s…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Hi Anthony,
Psalms 132:11 The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.12 If thy children will keep my covenant and my testimony that I shall teach them, their children shall also sit upon thy throne for evermore. 13 For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Hi t8,
YOU: Yes, he came in the flesh. These scriptures you quote do not debunk that Jesus was the Christ in the City of David.
ME: Of course Jesus was the Christ in Jerusalem, he was the Christ for the entire world, I am not trying to debunk that Jesus was not the Christ in Jerusalem.
I suppose you meant to say Jesus was the Christ in the…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Anthony,
Matthew gives you the GENESIS of Jesus where it goes from Abraham to David and from David to Joseph, and then you are told Jesus is Genea of these men, which means begotten/of the stock of. Also as said you are told that Jesus is of the fruit of David’s loins, that he is an anthropos (human), that he is of the seed of Abraham.
This…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Hi T8,
What is not humorous is to see someone like you who wants to ignore scriptures and at the same time say that they know the truth of scripture.
THREE passages t8, can you discuss them?
Acts 13:22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son…[Read more]
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