t8,

I SERIOUSLY cannot understand why you cannot address the passages I directly gave to you in my post before my last.

I gave you passages that directly give you our Savior, our Christ, our Lord from the OT.

You don’t have to look up the chapter and verse, I gave it to you. If you want a different translation you have the chapter and the…[Read more]

Good Morning t8,

Discuss Isaiah 11, 42, 45, 61 for starters, just read the whole chapters!

Also read Psalm 8.

There is a great deal more in the OT.

What you find in the OT is a promise of a MAN to COME, he is of the tribe of Judah, he is a son of Abraham, Jesse, and David. God ANOINTS this man, a resting of God’s Spirit in fullness upon him, a…[Read more]

t8,

I gave you the verses in particular, you even quoted me of those verses, Isaiah 11, 42, and 61.

It is a simple question and was very straight forward and YOU STUMBLE to answer,

Is the Spirit descending upon Jesus of Nazareth like a dove, NOT the fulfillment of Isaiah’s prophecies of chapters 11, 42, and 61?

11 For unto you is born this d…[Read more]

Hi t8,

10 But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people. 11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord. 12 This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.”

Did the angel KNOW of prophecy tha…[Read more]

Hi t8,

Is the Spirit descending upon Jesus of Nazareth like a dove, NOT the fulfillment of Isaiah’s prophecies of chapters 11, 42, and 61?

Hi Carmel,

YOU:

So when you said :

God ALONE made all things by

His Wisdom and Power,

YOU SIMPLY DECLARED THAT

AS MUCH AS GOD WAS ALONE, HE WAS ALSO WITH
HIS SON, WISDOM, and
THE HOLY GHOST, HIS POWER

ME: NO I declared NO such THING!

There is ONE TRUE GOD and He created all things by himself, with His powers, with His Wisdom, with His…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

YOU:

1 Corinthians 1:23 But we preach

CHRIST CRUCIFIED: ( GLORIFIED MAN GOD ON THE CROSS)

ME: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:

The Son of God is a perfect man “those that are led by the Spirit of God…[Read more]

HI T8,

YOU:Of course, logos is in God as it is part of his divine nature. So is truth. But Jesus said he was the truth, so taking your thinking Gene means that Jesus is God because he is truth. No so.

ME: Jesus is truth BECAUSE God gave him (a human) His Spirit without measure so that Jesus could speak the truth in God’s name. Jesus is truth…[Read more]

Hi t8,

You: Likewise with John 1:1c there is no definite article and you can tell from Psalm 82 that the second ‘theos’ is not the first ‘theos’.

Psalm 82
God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; He judgeth among the gods

ME: You can tell that the second elohiym is not the first in Psalms because the first is JUDGING the second, and one…[Read more]

Good Morning t8,

YOU:

I marvel at the debates that happen here and elsewhere. One side says that Jesus is God and the other says a man only. But scripture tells the truth when it identifies him as the Word of God, the messiah, the Son of God, and the saviour.

ME: Don’t you have a problem though with this t8, as the WORD is said that it “was…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

YOU:

WITHOUT “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man , as a

SPIRIT OF GOD,

WAS MADE NOTHING THAT WAS MADE:

AND THAT’S INCLUDES YOU AND THE ENTIR E HUMAN RACE!

ME: Scripture speaks AGAINST YOU CARMEL. Not only that but you speak treating God’s own words, His own promises, as if they are worthless, just meaningless garbage to you, and t…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

Well put, “as far as man goes there is none higher than him“!

We are said to be in error when all we are doing is applying clear given truth to passages. They can’t even bother to think upon that given truth, or have the notion that one is to apply clear given truth to all passages. 

They have these handful of passages that they say…[Read more]

Hi t8,

I was not debating John 1 in my last post, though what was said could be applied to it certainly, but that is beside the point.

ASIDE from John 1, it is true is it not that God is ALL KNOWING?

ASIDE from John 1, before God “made the earth, and created man upon it” is it TRUE that He made promises for man before He created them?

ASIDE f…[Read more]

Good Morning t8,

As we both know, your Jesus is not the same as mine, and so when we each read passages they take on different meanings. 

Let’s take this verse for example,

5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Before we get into this verse though,

I would like to…[Read more]

Hi t8,

God made MAN in His own image, and He made MAN to have DOMINION over it. You are told this FROM the beginning. 

Man however through himself cannot rule over the earth righteously, his ways bring pollution and destruction to God’s earth, man cannot judge his brethren and do right unto his neighbor through his own eyes and ears, as man…[Read more]

Hi t8,

ME:He does not return to a glory of a former self, he receives the glory of the END that God declared from the beginning, of which Jesus knew of.

YOU:This doesn’t resemble the scripture at all. Read it again.

And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

If you granted the grace to b…[Read more]

Hi t8,

YOU:If you want to talk people out of believing that God made all things through the son of God and that he is with the Father in the glory that he had with him before the cosmos, then attack those scriptures.

ME: I will keep this SHORT WINDED for you. 

First of all there is no ATTACK on a scripture by me. There is only attack on your…[Read more]

Hi t8,

God declared the END from the beginning, that means that the END which is DIRECTLY GIVEN to you, a MAN who God was mindful of and visited and crowned with glory giving him dominion over all the works of God’s hands, was God’s WORD from the beginning. God created all things through and for the END, thus creating all things through and for…[Read more]

Good Morning t8,

You:So long as you guys quote scriptures that I already believe in regarding the physical promises of the messiah as somehow countering the spiritual things, then you are not actually disproving anything.

ME: This is totally whack to me t8, you reducing the SPIRITUAL WORD of GOD to “physical promises of the Messiah”.

God’s WORD…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

You give the DRC translation the Catholic translation!

1 John 5:20 (RHE) And we know that the Son of God is come. And he hath given us understanding that we may know the true God and may be in his true Son. This is the true God and life eternal.

Here is the Young’s Literal Translation

1 John 5:20 (YLT) and we have known that the Son…[Read more]