Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Hi Gene,
You said, “Jodi…..Do you believe it was JESUS who was guiding the Isrealites in the wilderness? Or was it the cristo’s , the anointing spirit of God the Father guiding them?
Jesus is not the anointing spirit, he is the one who recieved that anointibg at the Jordan river, is the way i see it.”
I completely agree with you Gene! I nee…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Hi Nick you said, “Demons are not fallen angels. Who told you that? Not Enoch.”
Good to know that you do not believe that demons or devils are fallen angels, and Satan as well, I am sorry for assuming so. Google demons and fallen angels you will see many articles showing that this is something that a lot of Christians do in fact believe.
I would…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Nick you should study the word “heaven” and how it is used in the bible! That might be helpful to you. What heaven is Revelation referring to?
God’s righteous abode? The sky where the birds fly among the clouds? Outer space where the stars are? Men in high places exalted into a position of great power?
Luke 10:10But whatever city you enter, and…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Hi Nick,
I haven’t REMOVED the adversary at all I have identified all the saw-tawns throughout the bible. We have in scripture God and His angels as being adversaries unto men, we have men being adversaries unto other men, and men being an adversary to himself. What we do not find are fallen angels being adversaries to God or to man.
Jesus…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
To get back to the topic, The Serpent in the Garden of Eden, I am asking for someone to produce scriptural evidence that identifies the serpent according to Christian Tradition, that the serpent is a fallen angel in disguise.
To recap my position-
Man is called a serpent throughout the bible for being a deceiver/liar
When man sins he is said to…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Body of Moses:
Jude 1:3 Beloved, all diligence using to write to you concerning the common salvation, I had necessity to write to you, exhorting to agonize for the faith once delivered to the saints, 4 for there did come in unobserved certain men, long ago having been written beforehand to this judgment, impious, the grace of our God perverting…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Jeremiah 23: 9 Mine heart within me is broken because of the prophets; all my bones shake; I am like a drunken man, and like a man whom wine hath overcome because of the LORD, and because of the words of his holiness…..11 for both prophet and priests are profane; yea, in my house have I found their wickedness, saith the LORD. ——-
God say…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
What do the scriptures tell us throughout, and especially Paul?
sin comes from man’s OWN IMAGINATION, his own desires, his own will, and from his ignorance
man is a wild animal serving his carnal nature producing sin
man= serpent= slanderer (devil)
carnal mind= enmity against God
carnal mind= death
power of death is h…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Exodus 4:11 “So the Lord said to him,” Who has made man’s mouth? Or who makes the mute, the deaf, the seeing, or the blind? Have not I the Lord?”
Deut 30: 19 I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing,
I Samuel 2:6 “The Lord kills and makes alive; He brings down to the grave and brings up. The Lord makes the poor and the rich;…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Oh my goodness Nick you are something special, lol!!
You are a true waist of time!! You haven’t changed a bit 🙂
God alone has the supernatural ability to create darkness, calamity and to curse. I am open to hearing someone give scriptural evidence otherwise.
Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Nick you said,
“Yes it is a popular idea to deny Satan, the devil, the dragon, the serpent and the Christadelpians are strong in this.”
Excuse me but I have not denied saw-tawn, slanderer, dragon, or serpent.
The SERPENT in the bible is referred to DIRECTLY as MAN when man speaks lies
Show me a scripture where the SERPENT is called a fallen…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Wow you have a pretty limited view when it comes to quotation. So automatically if you quote someone that means that you support them? Holy cow that is absurd! So if I were to quote Hitler but then state something against Hitler’s ideas I would still be supportive and backing Hitler according to your logic?
Both Jude and Peter speak against the…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Who wouldn’t love Enoch! …reminds me of the women who love soap operas, lol!!
You love it because it is a tantalizing read? or because you think it speaks the truth?
Who do you identify as being the serpent in the Garden of Eden?
How do you define the enmity between the woman’s seed and the serpent’s seed?
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Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Hey Nick, buddy it’s been awhile!!
Where do you stand on the book of Enoch?
Jude 1:10 Yet these men speak abusively against whatever they do not understand; and what things they do understand by instinct, like unreasoning animals–these are the very things that destroy them.
I think that Jude and 2 Peter are exposing the falsehood of the Book…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
I’m bummed no one had a comment in regards to my earlier posts.
I continue to study and believe that there exists no such thing as fallen angels. Fallen angels equate to false gods.
Exodus 4:11 “So the Lord said to him,” Who has made man’s mouth? Or who makes the mute, the deaf, the seeing, or the blind? Have not I the Lord?”
Deut 30: 19 I have…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 8 months ago
Our God is a consuming fire!
Zechariah 13:8 “It will come about in all the land”, declares the Lord, “that two parts in it will be cut off and perish; But the third will be left in it. “And I will bring the third part through the fire, refine them as silver is refined, and test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, and I will answer…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 8 months ago
In Genesis God tells us two times that the imagination of man is wicked, even from youth.
Scripture tells us that our imagination creates lies.
God also warns Cain that sin lies at the door and it creates a desire that will RULE over him.
1 John 3 warns not to go in the way of Cain who belonged to the evil one.
Jesus says “you are of your…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 9 months ago
Hi Jael,
None of my views were changed they were made more confident as being true. I never misunderstood ever what the strange flesh meant, I knew exactly what it meant and it is the same as you. I was asking questions for others, particularly t8, to explain what HE THOUGHT it meant. I’m sorry for the confusion my posts brought. When I was as…[Read more]
Jodi started the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 9 months ago
Tradition teaches that the serpent in the Garden of Eden is a fallen angels. I believe however that the truth is entirely different! There is much repetitiveness in my argument, this is done on purpose in hopes that what the scriptures are truly saying will sink in.
Scripture calls men serpents equating that to mean a liar or one who is…[Read more]
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