Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Nick,
Biblical facts Nick, Jesus was born at the river and he died and then was born again at his resurrection.
Jesus said you must be born again by water and of the Spirit.
Was Jesus not born by water and of the Spirit at the river?
Yes indeed he was!!
From there he rose up and was sent out into the world to preach the coming kingdom and…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi LU,
Nice to see you back,
You said “A son like Jesus could not be made. He was eternal. Also, He was not made perfect, He always was perfect. Also, the day that those scriptures speak of when they say “today I have begotten you” is the resurrection from the grave day as the firstborn from the dead, not the baptism day.”
A few major err…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Anthony,
God promised David,
33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. 34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Nick
You said ”
Hi Jodi,
lk9.27
But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
Jn 3.3
Verily, verily I say unto thee,
Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
So those standing there would be born again from above before they died.”
Nick Jesu…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Anthony,
Thank you for your series of posts, I look forward to reviewing them and responding.
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick where is the prison, who were the spirits Jesus preached too?
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick I don’t think that you get the point of death, those that sin do not get LIFE, any kind of LIFE in anyway, part of life is being able to THINK. Death does not equate to you deserving your body die and not your spirit. Thoughts are sinful, and God being righteous will not let sin stand, He destroys sin. SHEOL, HELL, HADES, GEHENNA all equate…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick you are still ignoring the below, as well as many other scriptures.
Some standing here will not taste of death, UNTILL they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
You quoted this passage to say people don’t die, but on the contrary that is exactly what the passage is saying.
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick,
You said, “Those who live and believe in me will never die.
If you have been born of the eternal Spirit and walk by that Spirit you cannot suffer the second death .”
Those who LIVE AFTER rising from the DEAD at the LAST DAY, shall never die. The second death has no power as they are blessed and holy and have received eternal life.
John…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Some standing here will not taste of death, UNTILL they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
No comment Nick?
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Nick,
Some standing here will not taste of death, UNTILL they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Nick I am really starting to think that you are indeed totally delusional when it comes to comprehending scripture, As Gene said ” to see those things as you want makes you deny other clearly written scriptures.” It is even worse than t…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, 32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
Nick what part of “as touching the resurrection of the DEAD” do you not understand as it relates to God being…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick,
39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
Those who died in faith are said to be asleep, they are waiting to be raised from the dead and given the promise.
12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. 13 Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Nick,
Can you please clarify as to what you think Peter was referring to?
WHEN did Jesus preach to spirits in prison? Who are these spirits that Jesus preached to?
You certainly could not be speaking about people who are dead, as the DEAD KNOW NOTHING!
Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Ed J,
Thanks for your clarification question, you said
“You cannot be absent from the body when you are in the body.
Please explain how you can possibly believe that ???”
Paul says that you are not IN the flesh but in the Spirit, however at this time we are still literally in our flesh. Likewise if Christ be in us the BODY is DEAD, but…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Hi Ed J,
Okay let’s try this again,
Consider the below scriptures, where death is referred to as sleep, not as going to heaven, and reward meaning immortality occurs when Jesus returns.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; AFTERWARDS they that are Christ’s AT his COMING.
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Dry Bones Shall Live in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick of course the problem is within the flesh, just as Jesus said that sin comes from within.
Within the flesh is the mind of man
within the flesh is our carnal NATURE
Within the flesh lies our carnal instincts
Within the flesh lies a man’s ignorance
Within the flesh lies OUR imagination
Ephesians 2: 3 Among whom also we all had our…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Giving Heed to Doctrines of Devils in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Our hope is to go from mortal to immortal where death no longer has dominion over us, we no longer serve the flesh to survive, the enmity that God placed has been removed, we are SET FREE from the bondage.
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Giving Heed to Doctrines of Devils in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
but SIN WHICH DWELLS IN ME
14 But EVERY man is tempted, when he is DRAWN AWAY of HIS OWN lust, and ENTICED. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
WE are SEDUCED and DRAWN AWAY BY our OWN FLESH, and if we FOLLOW that it leads us to SIN. We need God’s Spirit as a helper to D…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Giving Heed to Doctrines of Devils in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Book Of Enoch says,
Enoch 8:1–3a reads, “And Azazel taught men to make swords and knives and shields and breastplates; and made known to them the metals and the art of working them; and bracelets and ornaments; and the use of antimony and the beautifying of the eyelids; and all kinds of costly stones and all colouring tinctures. And there a…[Read more]
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