Thanks Anthony, likewise you have had many great posts! Gene as well.

Is not man a creature who exists through influence?

Paul says that we are in bondage because of our natural born fear of death, this is what influences us into temptation, it is what influences our minds to serve the flesh. Not all service to the flesh is evil, if it were, then EATING would be a sin. But how you obtain your food can be sinful, if…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You said, ”

Hi Anthony,

The Father of Jesus can do no more.

He sent His Son as a sacrifice for the sins of the world.

How tragic for those who ignore Him and do not grasp onto this last opportunity to be saved.

Imagining that it is all already done by magic and that God does not require from each of us a response in faith to this…[Read more]

Hi TC,

You said,

Me: It is through the life of God in us that will obtain an immortal body, not an immortal body will give us life.

To say that we only live when Christ returns is both unscriptural and sterile. It does not have the life of the spirit in it. So if you, Gene, and Jodi and a billion like you want to believe that, then so be it. …[Read more]

Oh boy I have some catching up to do!

Nick you said,

“You would try to divide the gifts of the Holy Spirit from the lifegiving nature of the eternal Spirit?”

Me:  NO I HAVE NOT, in anyway.

Truthcomber,

You have not produced a scripture that says the dead saints came alive without bodies and went to heaven. Neither have you produced a scripture that shows at Pentecost people received the Holy Spirit that caused them to have a form of immortality and receive a body later at Christs coming.

Receiving the Holy Spirit when you are…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

The passage says he will be like the angels no longer able to die. So he is just like they are in the exact sense the passage says. They are not able to die and he is not able to die.  This doesn’t mean he is an angel.

So sad to see Nick you think so little of God’s creation of MAN and His work in perfecting him. So sad that when we are told specifically that upon Jesus being raised from the dead he was in FACT raised in POWER and in GLORY in a body that never saw decay, and you don’t believe it. So sad you don’t believe in these words of God, 31 Seeing what…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You said,

“Who are in the great crowd of witnesses in Heb 12?

The anointed ones alive in the Spirit spoken of in Heb 11.”

I will define who these witnesses are according to who Paul says they are, and not rely on your mind and who you think they are Nick.

Hebrews 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, receiv…[Read more]

Hi t8,

Matthew 27:50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. 51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his…[Read more]

TC,

First off there is nothing in Acts 2 that says people received an immortal mind of Christ when the Holy Spirit came giving them gifts of the Spirit at Pentecost.

Our MINDS exist in our bodies, it exists in our BRAIN of which is an organ in our body that needs the breath of life to function. People who lose oxygen in their brain can suffer…[Read more]

Hi TC,

Yes every time we see the word arise in scripture it does not represent to rise from the dead. It can mean to rise from actually sleeping, or to arise from sitting, etc..

That does not eradicate the below scripture,

Luke 2:37 But in the account of the burning bush, even Moses showed that the dead rise, for he calls the Lord ‘the God of A…[Read more]

Hi TC,

You responded,

“Me: NO!!!

John 11:23 Jesus saith unto her,Thy brother shall rise again.
Me: Christ mean that Jesus will rise now from his physical death.

24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day                                                                                      …[Read more]

Hi TC,

Let’s go through this again,

You responded,

“Me: NO!!!

John 11:23 Jesus saith unto her,Thy brother shall rise again.
Me: Christ mean that Jesus will rise now from his physical death.

24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day                                                        …[Read more]

Hi TC,

You said, “Comment: The promise of the holy spirit occurred from Pentecost, not from the resurrection of the body at the second coming of Christ. David had not received of the promise before this. But he did at Pentecost where he was baptized with the holy spirit with the human mind of Christ in it. yes he was baptized in the grave …[Read more]

Anthony great post! Thank you!

Gene likewise great responses to TC, thank you!

Hi TC,

You need to slow down!! I just copied and pasted all of your recent posts when I joined conversation with you and it totals 36 pages!! I am going through it and it is difficult to respond to, lol.

I suggest waiting for someone to respond to a few things you post before posting more things.

Hi Anthony,

Excellent post on Hell and the Grave! Thank you!

Hi TC,

I apologize for any misquotes, what you present I have never seen such an understanding of before, and I might have made assumptions or responded to a post before I had the whole picture. I still have not read through all of your posts and thus probably don’t have the full picture of your understanding. It seems everything you put forth…[Read more]

Hi TC,

Jesus is a human being with a human mind that was perfected by God’s Spirit working in his human mind. Jesus we are told was perfected through his suffering. The suffering that was brought to him proved his faith, he was able to overcome the fear of death and submit to God’s will. That trial perfected him, it proved his faith.

God’s…[Read more]