Hi Anthony,

Matthew 2: 1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, 2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

So Anthony you are basically trying to tell us that Jesus was born…[Read more]

t8,

God gives unto mortal men of His Spirit in measures, Jesus is the only exception as he was given of the Spirit without measure. Paul was given of the Spirit to be an apostle, that did not make him perfect, he still sinned. He longed for the day that God would perfect him, where he would have a body that would no longer tempt him. Paul taught…[Read more]

Good Morning Carmel,

You gave this passage as proof that Jesus pre-existed and that he is even God.

Hebrews 1:8 But to the Son: Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
<p class=”reg”>9 Thou hast loved justice, and hated iniquity: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

YOU:

Hebrews 5:9 And BEING MADE perfect, he BECAME the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

John4:34 Jesus saith to them: My meat is to do the will of him that sent me,

THAT I MAY PERFECT HIS WORK.

Jodi,

What is the difference between the above scriptures?

Jesus being made perfect in Hebrews 5:9 ( declaration…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

It is the Son of Man Jesus, the descendant of David, who is God’s servant and who sits at God’s right hand.

Isn’t it the SON OF MAN who is returning with angels who he has charge over?

Hi Carmel,

Why don’t you discuss Isaiah 42 and tell me how it fits with your belief, explain how it doesn’t contradict, instead of jumping to other passages?

I will respond to your so called proof that Jesus pre-existed and was a god in my next post.

Good Morning All,

Acts 4: 27 Indeed Herod and Pontius Pilate met together with the Gentiles and the people of Israel in this city to conspire against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed.

First you have Jesus then you have him being anointed,

1 “Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on h…[Read more]

Good Morning All,

Hebrews 5:9 And BEING MADE perfect, he BECAME the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Luke 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, WHICH SHALL BE to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the…[Read more]

Hi t8,

Why am I not called Jodi the Christ? You really think this is a smart question, a good jab?

Jesus the Christ was anointed with the Spirit in full measure and power, where he could perform signs and miracles, raise the dead, remain without sin. Through his anointing of the Spirit to this measure, he was the only mortal Son of Man who could…[Read more]

t8, when will you stop ignoring the fact that scripture directly says that first you have Jesus then you have an anointing??? 

Hi t8,

So you can’t answer my question, you respond with things are a mystery to you, though scripture clearly connects for me, that is interesting.

14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

You know what, I feel embarrassed at the moment,…[Read more]

Hi T8,

YOU:What about the point that some here teach as a rule that Jesus is never the Christ because the word Jesus on its own in the Bible refers only to a man (without the anointing) like anyone else here.

ME: Jesus refers to Jesus, and Jesus was anointed by God, as scripture directly tells you t8.

Jesus of Nazareth was anointed by God with…[Read more]

Hi Anthony and t8,

Please show me how it is that your understanding to Colossians 1 fits with Psalm 8?

Hi Ed J,

I never said that God made all things for Jesus and for Jesus. 

I have stated clearly several times that God made everything THROUGH Jesus and FOR Jesus.

When it came to the earth being created JESUS himself did NOTHING, as he did not exist.

14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

16 For in him…[Read more]

Hi t8,

22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

The message here is that both Jews and Gentiles not only…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

What you posted which I didn’t see before my last post doesn’t make the passage to say that Jesus created heaven and earth.

Firstborn meaning first place, as in rank, or reading firstborn as in being created first, either way you want to understand it doesn’t change WHO the passage is speaking of.

14 In whom we have redemption…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

YOU:

Hi Jodi

You said: the him here is the one who SHED his blood who now sits at God’s right as Paul wrote these words, who thus is the firstborn over all creation, as Paul says directly the firstborn of the dead, the new beginning.

You make out like “over all creation and ” of the dead” are each and the same thing.

My question…[Read more]

To ALL,

Acknowledge that God is all knowing and that He did in fact establish a NEW BEGINNING for heaven and earth before heaven and earth was even created.

Then acknowledge that the NEW BEGINNING starts with a human who was raised from the dead (last Adam), the firstborn given eternal life with many to be born after him.

Acknowledge the word…[Read more]

Can we not keep scripture straight, must people twist and change God’s word?

God promised David that He would take his son and make him into His own Son and it would occur on a certain day, “Today I have begotten you”.

NOT God took an already begotten Son and sent him down to earth and made him into David’s son.

God promised David He was going…[Read more]

Hi Ed J,

The bible says that “all things were created through him and for him.”

The “him” in this passage Paul just said was the one who shed his blood, and who at the time of Paul’s writing was in fact a firstborn over all creation. 

THROUGH is a word that has many different meanings, it is used OFTEN to mean BECAUSE OF.

The passage IS…[Read more]