To summarize my last post and add a bit, 

TC said: The Father and son comprise one person, not two. The soul (humanity) of the Messiah is in the spirit of God, that spirit being the Messiah. It is of the seven spirits of the one spirit. That one spirit is in the mind of God (Eph 4:23) and that mind of God is in the spirit (Romans 8:27). Christ i…[Read more]

Hi TC,

YOU:

Duet 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHWH our God is one YHWH
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/deuteronomy/6-4.htm
The correct translation in Duet 6:4 is YHWH and not LORD

ME: YES LORD equates to YHWH, that is the hallowed name of our Heavenly Father and He is ONE person whose will is to be accomplished and that will is for Him to be all in…[Read more]

Hi TC,

YOU:

Duet 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

So tell me, who is YHWH one with here? How could the Messiah learn obedience if he did not have his own thoughts like you say.

ME: WHAT??

First, Duet 6:4 is talking about our Heavenly Father He is ONE LORD, ONE master of all masters.

Second, Our Heavenly Father who is master…[Read more]

To ALL,

Applying the TRUTH to John’s Gospel,

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

REFLECT on God’s WORD, the prophecy God gave of a covenant concerning a man God would call to righteousness.  God’s Covenant was His word, it was a PROMISE that contained eternal life, and it contained the Son of Man…[Read more]

Hi TC,

I went to your first post on this thread,

YOU: I have changed my position on who the Word is.  But basically the rest is the same: there is only one God.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God.

Me: “with God” shows subordination.

ME: Correct ther…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

I have a much longer version to this post but I am going to keep it as simple this time around as possible.

You gave passages from Romans 8,

Romans 8:5 For they that are according to the flesh mind the things that are of the flesh: but they that are according to the spirit mind the things that are of the spirit.

6 FOR THE WISDOM OF…[Read more]

Hi t8,

Do we agree or not?

Prophecy was given about a savior long before Jesus was born. Can we at least agree on that?

According to the angel, the savior that is born that day, is called a savior as it directly relates to the prophecies given about a savior. Can we agree on that?

The angel in verse 10 is speaking of the covenant God made with…[Read more]

Good Morning t8,

As far as I can tell these passages contradict your belief.

Acts 13:22 And when he had removed him,he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom alsohe gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will. 23 Of this man’s seed hath God according to…[Read more]

t8,

You are not responding to what I have called out as a serious difference here. Could you please respond accordingly.

Your definition of Jesus as a man is different from that of mine, so in actuality we DO NOT AGREE at all. So when you say “no one here is denying Jesus was a man”, from my understanding of scripture as defining Jesus as a man,…[Read more]

t8,

You just did exactly what I said. You changed the person who the scripture is talking about, the anointed offspring of Jesse. You don’t even comprehend the message of the chapter.

Let this mind be in you that was also in the Christ. How can we be like minded with him if he is not a Son of Man like us? Is Paul not talking to those who were r…[Read more]

Hi t8,

Jesus is a man, he is a Son of Man, he is called a human. Scripture states so just about 100 times.

According to Jesus he was anointed with God’s Spirit and sent to preach God’s word, not his own word. That anointing didn’t make him no longer a human, it made him the offspring of Jesse having God’s Spirit rest upon him just like Isaiah…[Read more]

Hi TC,

ME:

Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

This new testament is the exact same as the COVENANT spoken by Isaiah.

You: No, it is…[Read more]

To ALL,

Prophecies are given of a man who is to be anointed, and then we are given the account of the fulfillment of that anointing. 

TEST yourself, reflect, are you ignoring these prophecies?

example,

Isaiah 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to…[Read more]

To All,

Prophecies ARE GIVEN of a savior and then accounts are given of those prophecies being fulfilled. 

TEST yourself, reflect, are you ignoring these prophecies?

Here is one,

Isaiah 53:5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are…[Read more]

t8,

Get it straight so that you can actually speak with truth.

Teaching the exact opposite would be to say “today a savior was NOT born”. I don’t say that, I say that “a savior was born that day”, and I say a SPECIFIC savior was born that day, the savior spoken by the prophets.

That’s not the “exact opposite” NOW IS IT?

How is it that a…[Read more]

t8,

Yes let’s be honest here, let’s dive into identifying what exactly is made clear.

Acts 3: 25 And you are heirs of the prophets and of the covenant God made with your fathers. He said to Abraham, ‘Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed.

Luke 2:10 But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid. I bring you good news tha…[Read more]

t8,

You: Jesus was still born the messiah as it is written

ME: NO, that is NOT written anywhere, nice try. Don’t say something is written that is not actually written. 

This is what is written,

Luke 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is…[Read more]

Hi TC,

YOU: So “God cannot be tempted” means more than Just testing him in James 1:13. You need to read the whole context.

ME: You need to believe in what the whole context says and apply it to other verses.

God cannot be tempted, God is not a man so verse 14 and 15 have nothing to do with Him, but Jesus is a man so verse 14 and 15 can give…[Read more]

To ALL,

Anyone who reads John 10:17-18 and believes it is saying that Jesus has the power to raise himself from the dead and believes that Jesus raised himself from the dead is in MAJOR ERROR. 

Jesus lays down his LIFE, meaning that he dies and no longer has LIFE, he is DEAD, he does this because he loves us, so that our sins are no longer…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

Passages below tell you directly that God raises Jesus from the dead. How could Jesus raise himself from the dead he was dead.

If he didn’t actually die you are still in your sins. This has got to be one of the worst doctrines I have ever come across, of people saying Jesus raised himself from being dead.

Acts 2: 22 Ye men of Israel,…[Read more]