Thank you brother Gene,

Your post to t8 was exactly right, in regards to the word “through”.

They totally miss how the same passage says it was made FOR him, proving that he didn’t make it someone made it for him.

You said,

“Also that’s why we’re told, the sum of God’s words are truth, you can easily be lead down a wrong path by just takin…[Read more]

To All,

Jesus is not Christ because he pre-existed as another creature who God had made who was The Anointed. To say such is to speak a lie, or to be fully ignorant, or to be just absolutely delusional.

The words used in scripture for anointed or to anoint (Mashiyach, Mashach, Christos, Chrio) pertain to HUMANS being consecrated by God.

There i…[Read more]

To ALL,

Here is another passage that shows it is nothing but a straight forward lie to say that the Christ existed before the man Jesus. 

Christ below is recognized as a man of flesh having been anointed, Christ does not represent an anointed one existing and then becoming made in the flesh.

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God…[Read more]

To ALL,

To say that our lord the Christ came down to earth and was made into a human, is a direct lie. Scripture tells you directly that Jesus identified as a man of the offspring of David, was MADE into a master and into the Christ.

Jesus was MADE a master and the anointed one. 

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly,…[Read more]

To ALL,

The below shows YET again that Jesus didn’t pre-exist, that he didn’t create heaven and earth. This passage shows you that YHWH created it so that man could SEEK Him and find Him. God created heaven and earth for the purpose of becoming ALL in ALL.

24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and…[Read more]

Hello All,

What does it mean that a man was MADE a little lower than the angels?

WHAT did God’s angels do?

They were SENT to fulfill God’s will and they had God’s powers to accomplish His will.

You can say that a pre-existing non flesh one of a kind Son of God was SENT to earth all you want, but such is not written in scripture. SUCH GOES…[Read more]

HI ALL,

Colossians 1:16 (YLT) because in him were the all things created, those in the heavens, and those upon the earth, those visible, and those invisible, whether thrones, whether lordships, whether principalities, whether authorities; all things through him, and FOR him, have been created,

YOU SEE that?? “FOR” him, not for himself. Someone…[Read more]

To ALL,

Jesus said he WAS TAUGHT by God, he LEARNED from God, he could do nothing of himself.

Receiving of any measure of God’s Spirit is a manner of our human spirits LEARNING something from God, learning truth, learning character, learning to obey. 

YHWH created our human spirits to LEARN to walk in His ways perfectly.

Jesus was the only…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

YOU:Me: Jesus Christ is called YHWH here, it’s Jesus Christ that’s actually the creator of the heaven and earth. We do realize that the Father and his Only Begotten Son are one, there completely in unity.

ME: They are in complete unity because YHWH called the Son of Man, the offspring of Jesse INTO righteousness, the Son of Man walks…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

YOU:Me: Jesus Christ is called YHWH here, it’s Jesus Christ that’s actually the creator of the heaven and earth. We do realize that the Father and his Only Begotten Son are one, there completely in unity.

ME: They are in complete unity because YHWH called the Son of Man, the offspring of Jesse INTO righteousness, the Son of Man wal…[Read more]

Hi TC and ALL,

TC: His glorification did not happen at Jordan. When did it happened?

Berean Study Bible
John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with the glory I had with You before the world existed.

Acts 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus AGAIN; as it is also written in the…[Read more]

TC,

YOU:Me: NO JODI, Christ did not receive glory and honor at Jordon.

ME: The Spirit descends like a dove on Jesus, God says, “THIS is my beloved Son”. Jesus shortly thereafter quotes from Isaiah speaking of the Spirit resting upon him, being anointed and SENT. In Isaiah the Spirit resting upon him, is said that he has been GIVEN GLORY.

Before…[Read more]

Good Morning TC,

2 Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

WHAT is the source of righteousness?

Isaiah 42:6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and…[Read more]

Hi t8,

EVEN with John quoting prophecy you refuse to apply prophecy, it is just bizarre.

John clearly tells you that he KNOWS prophecy, he KNOWS who Jesus is ACCORDING to prophecy. He knows what Isaiah said and he speaks of Jesus according to that word of God. What he did not know was that he had to baptize Jesus in order for that word to be…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

It is just bizarre how folks say Jesus is The WORD of God denying all scripture that relates Jesus to God’s word, as if none of it exists or I guess as if none of it is to be applied.

Very simple, we are told directly that Jesus had the Spirit rest upon him, an anointing and was sent out to PREACH God’s Gospel.

We are told directly…[Read more]

TC,

You left out,

Matthew 3:15 Jesus replied, “Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness.” Then John consented. 16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from hea…[Read more]

Anthony, t8, and ALL,

Please discuss these passages,

2 Peter 1: 16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we MADE KNOWN unto you the power and COMING of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 For he received from God the Father honor and glory, WHEN there came such a voice to him from the excellent…[Read more]

To ALL,

2 Peter 1: 16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we MADE KNOWN unto you the power and COMING of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 For he received from God the Father honor and glory, WHEN there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well…[Read more]

Hi t8,

YOU:

Is Jesus God?
His name is the Word of God.

Only his Father is the one true God.

“And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent,”.

We either hold to what scripture is telling us, or we go down our own path of understanding.

We are free to choose and this freedom makes us…[Read more]

Hi t8,

YOU:

Is Jesus God?
His name is the Word of God.

Only his Father is the one true God.

“And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent,”.

We either hold to what scripture is telling us, or we go down our own path of understanding.

We are free to choose and this freedom makes us…[Read more]