t8….> where isa1:18…uses the text that say's Christ is all and in all. That was the Spirit that made Christ the Christ it is that Spirit that was in him and is in all. This scripture was showing the Spirit not Jesus the man. It was God in Jesus working through him and through all who have His Spirit. Jesus is a prototype of what God wants all…[Read more]

Kenrch…..I to was a wwcg member for seven years, until i learned that some of their teachings were wrong. When i first started to atend i was a bible ilitterit but through seven years of study i found errors in there teachings. And after much descusion decided to leave, that was about 30 years ago. I continued to study and learn though, I agree…[Read more]

Mr. Steve….I know there were people who worshiped Jesus, but i see no were we are told to worship him and i wouldn't stop anyone from doing it either, but i will not unless God the Father tells me to, and the scriptures i mentioned does not show anyone worshiping him either.Many people thought Jesus was himself doing those mericales that God was…[Read more]

Kenrch….I also keep the sabbath and have for most of 40 years, I lost hugh acounts over the Sabbath, Like Dow Chimical Co. because i would not let my men work on the Sabbaths. But i have come to see the sabbath in a better light, as a day of blessings in which God put a special blessing in for us all. I noticed you said it was the law of God…[Read more]

to all…..lets stop the name calling, we all get caught up in at times, I gess it shows we all got salt,” ha ha.”But laruel, I do have a question in regardes to the reign of Jesus on earth, it has to do with theprophesy of Dainel, where he was talking about the large image that the King of Baboloyn Nebocanazar saw. It gives a progression of world…[Read more]

kejonn…> I think the reason Jesus said that he would send the conforter because while he was there the word or God was in him and therefore it was already there but when he left it would not longer be with them so when he went to the Father he had the father send it to them to be in them just like it was in Him it would no longer be with them…[Read more]

Kenrch…..> remember Paul said by works of law no flesh would be justified before God. Law is forced compliance and being force to obey God's commandments dosn't work the old testement proved that. But we apart from law (forced compliance) keep Gods commandments through a new and living way. God has taken out of us the stoney heart and given us…[Read more]

Kenrch……> remember when Jesus said “the sabbath was made for man and not man for the sabbath. I also believe we should honor the sabbath and try to rest on it. But there is somthing I think you may be overlooking Jesus also said he was also (LIKE US ) Lord of the sabbath. What that means is we can us it as we choose it's up to us. God not…[Read more]

Oxy…> the problem is the word (became flesh), this is an impossibility. A word can come to be in flesh, but never be flesh. What did Jesus say,” the flesh profits nothing”, but the word of God is Spirit and life. Words form spirits and we are told to try the Spirits to see if they are of God. So how do we try them is it not by the words comming…[Read more]

Kenrch……> my answer to you is > suffer the little childern to come unto me, for of such are the Kingdom of God. And except you become as a little child you shall in no way inter the kingdom of God. Ken….NO childern are not born sinners, they and you learned to sin from the world you were born into, and it infected you and me. We became…[Read more]

to all…..I believe we are all born without sin, into a sinfull world and just like a virus infects a person so sin infected us < John said all theat's in the world, the lust of the eyes and the lust of the flesh are of (FROM) the world. Remember it say's sin intered into the world and when we enter into the world sin was all ready here, we were…[Read more]

Quote (Guest @ June 13 2005,02:30)Back to the originial scripture mentioned above, what does Jesus mean?  I always thought family was important to God and that God was a God of love.  I have heard folks mention the use of hyperbole to get a point across.  What do you guys think?Joshua…..> read it carefully. It does not say we are to hate the pe…[Read more]

Kejonn…..> to me it's simple to understand concerning the word, just read John 1:1 without capitals and give the simple meaning of word,(intelligent utterance) this intelligence was with God and Was part of who Godwas.And God gave this intelligence it is what enlightens every man that comes into the world. But even though we have this…[Read more]

Kjonn…Right on, God bless you…..Gene

Quote (kenrch @ July 31 2007,02:56)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 30 2007,14:12)Nick… yes it does speak of a man i never said it didn't. what i said was its a false image of the Man Jesus Christ being portrayed as God that Makes up the Man of sin. Not a real man a false image which creates a false desplay of Jesus who is a man as a God. DO you see…[Read more]

to all ..>good explains what evils is and evil explains what good is, how could we truley know the difference if you didn't experience them. I believe it was needfull for us to experience both good and evil first hand and thats why God allowes it.

Nick… yes it does speak of a man i never said it didn't. what i said was its a false image of the Man Jesus Christ being portrayed as God that Makes up the Man of sin. Not a real man a false image which creates a false desplay of Jesus who is a man as a God. DO you see the Lie mentioned throught the text,It's not a real person it a lie about…[Read more]

Nick….I think kenrch brought out some good points on this subject also and some of them went along with my thoughts on the subject. I presented it on this wed site because most people here Know that Jesus is not God and understand the lie that say's he is.thanks…gene

Nick….It's just what came into my mind a couple of years ago while i was reading the text in a Greek interlinear translation, the words seam to fall in place with Jesus being portrayed a Very God by trinitarians and the fact Jesus is sitting in the true temple of God now,and that he has been made out to be God which we know is a lie, it just…[Read more]

Nick….again you are mistaken i have never forced you or anyone to take my view point I have said and still say this is (MY) ON THE MAN OF SIN DESCUSSION, the only one forcing people to take view points is you not me. And its you who doesn't fully back up your theology not me.