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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 6 months ago

    Mr. Steve …..please by who's hand are the laws of God put in the gentiles Hearts, Is't their own free will choices. Tell me what this means then Jer 31:33,,,> ” but this is the covenant that I (GOD) will make with the House of Israel after thoses days say's the lord; I (GOD WILL PUT) my law in their minds and write it on their Hearts; and I will…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Mr. Steve @ Feb. 21 2008,07:07)The entire Bible is written with this truth in mind.  Paul talks about the Gentiles that have not the law but do by nature the things contained in the law, they having not the law are a law unto themselves, their conscience the meanwhile either accusing or excusing them before God. Therefore, there is a…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Mr. Steve @ Feb. 20 2008,06:05)Gene;Why did Jesus say either make the tree good or make it corrupt?Where in the sermon on the mount does Jesus imply we are helpless to do the will of God?Quote Jesus is an example of God's saving Work…So was he lost at one time Gene?Quote Jesus' choices did not save Him, the Father who was in Him saved…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 6 months ago

    To all……..God (WORKS) in us to do (HIS) Will and good pleasure, and again, You are (CREATED) unto good (WORKS)> And again “For I (GOD) will take out of Them the stoney Heart and give them a Heart of Flesh (soft heart) and I (GOD) will write (MY) laws in their inward parts. It looks to me like God is the one doing the saving work in us. God…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 6 months ago

    martian…….Amen brother, what you wrote is the truth, may God continue to bless you with understanding and continue to give you the ability to share it.Peace to you and yours………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 6 months ago

    Nick……martian gave a very good explanation of The Spirit, what do you where JESUS said your Father in Heaven Knows what you have need of, when He made that statement the apostles had not recieved the Spirit yet, but many times he told then to refer to God as their Father. You seem to have forget where God said if He were to retract His…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 7 months ago

    Mr. Steve…..> the trinitarian Doctrine is far more damaging then you are expressing, it sets up Idolatry and is Hated by God, Idolatry was the reason God Kicked the Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judea out of their lands, it goes against the First commandment. There is only one God and one Creator of all things and thats God the Father,…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 7 months ago

    martian……..> I also believe it's experience with the Father that produces true faith. I know we have recieved the forgivness of our sins through the sacrifice of Jesus, but even the Father provided that also. This whole shift today in total focuse on Jesus, is like the saying, “rob Peter and pay Paul. So called Christainity today rob God the…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 7 months ago

    martian…….> would like to get a copy of your book when completed. And contrary to Samuels assesment i believe these descussions bring up true evaluations of teachings that i believe are important to Christian development. The topics of Trinity, Prexistence, Free Will, eternal Hell fire, all tie together and are critical in proper understanding…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 7 months ago

    to all…..> the problem with giving Jesus unreal advantages is this. one it seperates his exact likesness from us, which deminishes our chances of being (exactly) like Him, two, it creates an object of worship other then the one God and causes Idolatry. Jesus know who to worship and it wasn't himself, even tell a person” why call (ME) good,…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 7 months ago

    Martain….> i also believe that to what every difference a person sees Jesus different then himself, thats the degree they will never be like Him.There are some here who just will not believe God took an ordinary man and perfected him into a perfect image of himself. They just doint grasp the power and purpose of our God.Peace to you and yours…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 7 months ago

    Martain……..> good and right post, I have had many of the same mircales happen in my life as you also have had.Peace to you brother……………..gene

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    T8…….> is it possible to give Kenrich another chance, he did at times have some pertty good posts, Just ask him not to be so condisending and have a little more patient with everyone.It grieves me that you had to do what you did brother.peace to you and yours………….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 7 months ago

    martian…….> good post I see it that way too, Jesus portrayed by trinitarians is a Jesus that counterdicts himself for instence > he can do nothing of himself then he is God Himself, these are counterdictory terms and like you said you get a Jeaus or God or diety of confusion , the words wern't His and yet he's the word, and on and on it goes.…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 7 months ago

    To all…….> Faith is the substence of thens Hoped for, the (evidence ) of things not seen. Who Here has evey seen God, while we can all read what others say, that can never give us Faith. True Faith is the product of a (Personnel) One on One relationship with God. Anything else is just a supposition and many call that faith, but thats not true…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 18 years, 7 months ago

    acertainchap………> tell me is the words Free Will even in the bible i never seen it if it is, did Jacob and Esau have a free choice, when God said Jacob have i loved and Esau have i hated before they were born. Did Pharaoh have a choice when God said I have hardened His Heart. Show me where one of the prophets didn't do what they were told to…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 18 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (joejoe @ Nov. 25 2003,05:38)GOD CHOOSES MAN, MAN DOES NOT CHOOSE GODDo you deny the total depravity of man, and hold that the will of man is free and has the ability to choose Christ and the salvation that is in Him?  Such teaching is false and delusive since the Scriptures represent election as occurring in the past, irrespective of…[Read more]

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    Nick……..> Jesus' life was all about God the Father in everything He did. Jesus said the words i am speaking are not mine but the words of Him who sent me, and again He who believes in me does not believe in me but Him who sent me. Jesus was all about the Father and charged us to be the same way. There is only one God and One mederator between…[Read more]

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    Nick ……> Have you ever thought that the Holy Spirit might Be Holy i.e. (Godly) intellect . Jesus said the words he spoke were Spirit and truth.Now if we tie the three things mentioned by Jesus, (words,spirit,truth) together what do we come up with, to me we would come up with Godly intellect, which is being express by Jesus through words. So…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 25 2008,04:45)Hi Gene, James would disagree. Sin comes from within via lust.Nick…….> John said (all) thats in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes , and the pride of life (are from the world). We become infected when we intered the world we were not born sinners. If we are going to continue this…[Read more]

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