Gollamudi…..No where does it say the Comforter comes (THROUGH) Jesus, it comes from the Father and it is in Jesus and also in those who Have it. WE do have (access) to that Spirit through Jesus' sacrifice which is the forgiveness of sins. But even that is Gods doing. But the comforter does not channel (through) Jesus to us as the Word (through)…[Read more]

Nick…..Jesus was baptized with water Paul was Peter was telling people to be now do you honestly think he and the rest of the apostles were not. At first you imply none of the apostles were baptized the when i show you Paul was then you say were the rest then. Your motives are just to argue and it's oblivious to me.You see this proves my point…[Read more]

Gollamudi….right the whole bible is what gives us the right understand not just one book , we are told the (SUM) of Gods it truth. You can't just take one or two scriptures and always think you have it, it the Sum and with a good mind of the Spirit you can easily put it together.Love and peace to you and yours…………..gene

Nick………so don't continue to do it ok.

Nick…….. No what i expect from you is even if scriptures are given you still won't accept them as you have shown many times all ready .Your right take the advice ,i think you need it more then anyone on this site. Your assumption and speculations and false teachings does cause a lot of problems as far as most of us can tell.imo….gene

Nick…..i gave you a scripture look it u for yourself.

Mandy …..let no one deceive you with vain arguments . without Spiritual baptism of Holy Spirit there will be (NO) change in your or anyone else's life at all. It takes the Spiritual mind of God to cause change and with out that a person only has the Carnal mind and that mind is a enemy of God and is not subject to the laws of God (NEITHER) CAN…[Read more]

Nick…….So now you are saying the apostles were not baptized with water I find that hard to believe. So they were baptizing but they were not that would kind of make them Hypocrites then would it not. Of course i totally disagree with you, and if you read Act 9:18 you will see the apostle Paul was indeed baptized.Common sense would have told…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 16 2008,08:35)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 16 2008,07:47)To All………the apostles were water baptized and remained totally carnal minded it made no difference in their lives, as scriptures has shown in many places, one of them even betrayed Jesus in fact they all forsake Him and Jesus even called Peter Satan all this was…[Read more]

To All………Did the apostles put themselves to death when they were with Jesus, scripture show they did not, why because they couldn't until they received Power from on High which gave them the power to put there wills to death Just like Jesus. Now when did they receive that power when they were water baptized or when they were baptized with…[Read more]

Nick………Point is when they are proved you still wont accept them, but Just divert to something else, or ignore the proof and the reasonings. Thats what frustrates those debating with you on subjects. If Scriptures are posted to back up a position you aught to at least acknowledge them. I have seen you misrepresent many subjects. And your…[Read more]

Chosenone ………..Amen brother we are HIS WORK in progress. If only people could understand God the Father Absolute (Sovereign) involvement in our lives, they could have so much peace in them.Blessings to you and yours………………gene

To All………the apostles were water baptized and remained totally carnal minded it made no difference in their lives, as scriptures has shown in many places, one of them even betrayed Jesus in fact they all forsake Him and Jesus even called Peter Satan all this was done after water baptism there was no change on them. In fact Jesus never…[Read more]

942767……….Excellent explanation of God the Fathers Spirit working in and through Jesus just as it does all who have it in them. You could not have said or explained it any better. The comforter was with the Apostles because it was in Jesus and Jesus prayed the Father and He sent that same comforter to be in us also. One God in (ALL) and…[Read more]

Mandy….I meant to say i agree with Adam Completely.Love to you and yours…………..gene

Mandy…….I agree with nick completely Nick is an expert at diverting from subject matter I have seen Him do it with you, me, and Adam, and others also.And when you post 10 or 12 scriptures to support what you are saying< He simply does not admit He could be in error, He refuses to accept it and simple diverts subject matter, This is damaging in…[Read more]

942767………Right On, Amen Brother. I see it that way also. there is One Spirit that was in Jesus and when he went to the Father that same Spirit was sent to Us. And that spirit was the mind of God, “If this mind be in you which was in Christ Jesus our lord (IT) will quicken your mortal bodies (ALSO). Just like (IT) did Jesus.peace to you and…[Read more]

Chosenone ….. I agree that God will ultimately save all His creation. By His power to be in all things. And salvation is not a matter of Mans so called (free will) it”s a matter of God's WILL. I think the biggest problem is that Man does not see the the absolute Sovereignty of God and there in lies the Problem. Man wants to think his salvation…[Read more]

Nick……….nor does yours.

Nick……..who are you talking to?