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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Gollamudi…. I havent really looked into that much but they are there because scripture states it. Rev 4:5..> and from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. And these seven Spirit are Shown to have powers and they go out from God into all…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
WJ….I can fit what you quoted as Jesus words into the words He spoke but where can you put the fact that the ten direct scriptures i quoted fit into you theology of Jesus words being (His Own Words). When He plainly says they weren't His. Looks like we have a counter diction of Scripture if we see it your way then right. Just as saying the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Demons in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Irene…..If you look up the word Lucifer, you will find it means rising Star, that was a description used even today of some growing in popularity, we call them rising stars. The King of Babylon was a rising star so to speak, and God was going to bring Him down which He did do. Babylon sat where today is modern Baghdad it is where the garden of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic How is Jesus not God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick….You position yourself as the one who Knows when aperson is giving false information in others opinion your the one who is doing it, but you just don't see that, you think you are the only one who holds truth, while others who disagree with you are wrong, I haven given you many scriptures concerning subject matter and you Don't acknowledge…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 18 years, 2 months ago
Chosenone…..thanks i to was water baptized twice also. and i agree with your post to gollanudi, Good Post brother. Peace to you and yours……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 18 years, 2 months ago
Gollamudi……..To listen to Nick you should also be circumcised because God comamded that also, He also commanded to keep the Sabbath day also. But i would like to see where (God said) to be water Baptized, And that will save you. Paul said there is (ONLY ONE BAPTISM) so take your pick. I will choose the Baptism of the spirit. But again it's…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Wolves among the flock in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
To all…..I have noticed that people and organizations who are cautioning people to beware of others are them selves the deceivers. I was in a church once the used that to install fear in there members so they wouldn't question what they were doing and teaching, I believe Jim Jones used that on His people also and they wound up drinking laced…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
WJ………I quoted 10 or 12 scriptures where Jesus plainly said the words weren't His and i noticed you did not commit on them would you like me to requote them to you? Or can you just go back and read them and give us your commit on them. I am interested to see how you denie them, or divert what they say.peace………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 18 years, 2 months ago
chosenone……….Amen brother, You can get wet all you want to it wont save you< It's the baptism of the Spirit And Fire that save you Period, nothing more or nothing less. Trust me all those who go running to Christ when he comes were all water baptized and it didn't seem to have done them any good. But I am willing to bet that all who are…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
To All………the spirit of Christ is the Spirit of the Father. Jesus put His Will to Death and when his will died He died as a separate being. Then the only thing left was the spirit of the Father He became one with GOD this way. Therefore if it says the spirit of Christ or the Spirit of God or the Spirit of the Father it's all (ONE SPIRIT).…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Gollamudi……..Yes Jesus and the Father are one in Spirit and its the same Spirit that Jesus yielded to by putting (HIS WILL) to death Now if He put his (WILL) to death whats left the Spirit of God that was in Him, Therefore He no longer has a separate will so He could easily say we will come unto you, and when we finely put our will totally to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Wj……if a person or spirit cant speak of it's own, you have to ask why cant it, the only answer imo is it does not have its own Will or it could speak of it own. because a person can speak of his own self, but the comforter can't why then.If you understand that the comforter is part of GOD then it makes sense, it is part of God in you that…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Gollamudi…….it says ” for God works in us to (BOTH) WILL and do His good Pleasure. Yes it is the one God doing that he conceders us temples he can dwell in Just as he did Jesus, remember when He spoke through Jesus and said destory this temple and in three days (I) GOD, shall raise it up. Jesus did not raise himself from the grave it was the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
To all………there is (ONLY) ONE GOD and (ONE) mediator between that ONE GOD and Us and that was the (MAN) Jesus Christ, Who had the (ONE) GOD in Him Who is HOLY SPIRIT. Not two or three separate entities in various forms or essences of any Kind. Even the top trinitarian Scholars themselves admit they don't Know how to explain the Trinity, they…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Gollmaudi………..Jesus said God is Spirit, notice He did not say (A Spirit) as many presume he is, the word (A) would imply a single Spirit but Jesus said Spirit which imply a plural sense. We also know God is Holy and therefore Holy Spirit is the Father Himself there is no separation between God the Father and His Holy Spirit, it says Howbeit…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Quote (gollamudi @ June 17 2008,06:12)I agree with you as far as the Spirit manifests gifts differently. But you see clearly in Revelation even verses quoted by you the seven spirits are not symbolified. Show me where they are symobolified?Gollamudi……Rev 5:6….>and i looked and behold in the midst of the throne and of the four living…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 18 years, 2 months ago
Mandy…..remember when Peter told them to repent and be baptized they had already repented of Killing Jesus, saying men and brethren what shall we do seeing we have put to death the son of God., The baptism of the Holy Spirit already convicted them in there hearts, so what repentance was Peter talking about then, he was telling to repent of their…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Gollamudi………..the way i see it is there are seven spirits of God and for that matter all spirits proceed forth from him and Spirit can combine with spirit, as in Jesus and our case, we both have the spirit of truth given to us from God the Father, this Spirit gives us the power to recognize truth and prevents us from being deceived, without…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Eternal torment in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
gollamudi……..Don't get discourage, as i told you before those who God has allowed to See and Hear do, and those who he has blinded are blind they just can't get it, don't get discouraged brother, You quoted it right God took from their brethren and raised up a man, Jesus as He said He would, and He was prophesied to come before the foundations…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Truth in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…….it is to me i am sorry if it isn't to you. There are about a thousand quotations form the OT in the NT including the Book of Acts. I believe the whole Bible is good for teaching and edification in the things of God. I do believe it is all true it might not be understood in places and ther are translation errors in bothe the OT and NT,…[Read more]
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