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    Mandy………right, that divine influence works by (God Will), not ours so-called free wills,as false teachers and false churches would like people to think.The Father get (ALL) the glory for our salvation, but i already know you know that.Peace and love to you and yours…………….gene

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    Mandy……you received that Grace when you were Baptized with holy spirit. Mandy look up the meaning of the Word Grace, It doesn't mean what most people think, it is Divine influence in your life. That divine influence is being given to you in your Heart and that caused us to chose the things of God. Your are (created) unto good works. God is…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 18 years, 2 months ago

    TO all……..Can anyone show where a person truly chooses something without any influences of any Kind and if He does choose something by any influence it that truly a free Choice or an influenced Choice. Science as well a philologist have proved that true free will does not exist, every thing a person does is caused by a previously installed…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 18 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2008,18:26)Quote (chosenone @ June 28 2008,18:12)Hi WJ, may I comment? Eph.1:11… God is operating ALL according to the councel of HIS will. Can our so-called “free will” overcome the will of God?Blessings.CONo, but you assume that it is God's will that men be puppets and not have a will.If the scripture you…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 18 years, 2 months ago

    Nick……..naturally you don't think God Controls everything thats the way you and WJ think, you think it all up to you and your so-called free wills, like i said before good luck your going to need it.

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 18 years, 2 months ago

    Nick……..the son makes you free from our own so-called free will thinking, which imprisons you thats what so called free will got you. Using that to prove free will Ideology only shows you lack of understanding, of what scriptures really mean. And if you think the transforming of your mind is done by your so- called free will , you are really…[Read more]

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    Jodi………i agree with you, this whole misconception of demons is not really understood by Modern Churches and a lot of times is used to control people by making, them fearful if they leave their church Satan is Causing it. When in fact they may be more the servants of the so-called Satan by being in that church. Like it says they go get…[Read more]

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    Nick….have you ever read “He who condemns another, condemns His self”.

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    Nick….have you ever read “He who condemns another, condemns His self”.

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    Nick…..You have Just described your self brother, go look in a mirror. It a perfect image of you,your describing, Again you are playing the part of Judge and accuser.

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    Nick…..You have Just described your self brother, go look in a mirror. It a perfect image of you,your describing, Again you are playing the part of Judge and accuser.

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    Nick……If you understood the synbolic language usd in revelation you could easley figure out what it is really saying, but sense you can't i understand you confusion, You take every thing literally it says and don't discern the spiritual and symbolic things, but if you just understood the very first sentence of the first chapter you could have…[Read more]

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    Quote (gollamudi @ June 28 2008,18:06)Hi WJ,If you really follow God without the influence of Holy Spirit then I can say you are having free will to follow God otherwise I don't agree with your definition. We do some thing not by our own but we try to follow what is already recoreded in our minds and hearts. That's why Paul says in Romans 3, there…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2008,17:05)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 28 2008,16:25)To All……. The Carnal mind (the one we are born with) IS a enemy of God (Not ) subject to the laws of God Neither (CAN) be. But some would not have you believe that, they by their own so-called (FREE WILL) are able to choose the right way on their own. Even…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2008,14:39)Hi GM, I agree in part. But it is us who must allow ourselves to be led by the gentle breeze of the Spirit. Gal5 25If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.Mandy…..You could never allow yourself to be lead by God unless God was causing you to, working in your mind to cause to want to do…[Read more]

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    To All……. The Carnal mind (the one we are born with) IS a enemy of God (Not ) subject to the laws of God Neither (CAN) be. But some would not have you believe that, they by their own so-called (FREE WILL) are able to choose the right way on their own. Even though Jesus Showed that we need to put our (WILLS) to death Like He Did. Whosoever…[Read more]

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    Nick…..Let me one more time say (ALL) will be Saved. “for every mans work will be tested, it he has build with Gold Silver or precious stone, he will receive a reward, if he has built with hay, straw, or stubble,he shall suffer loss, If any mans work is burned he shall suffer loss But He himself shall be saved (YET) as by Fire (intense…[Read more]

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    Nick……first of all what you said is coming from you mouth not mine, i believe there is all kinds of Satan's even you at times and even me at times and even Peter at times. Do I believe there is one Satan (NO) I DON”T> when did I ever say we do not need to pray for the Will of God to be Done on earth as in Heaven. I never ever even suggested…[Read more]

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    Nick……..Jesus called Peter Satan, so from your point of view He has to be the real Satan, because Jesus would not lie would He?, So if Peter is not (SATAN) them maybe Satan Just means Advisory and is not implied as literal. It doesn't take a highly intelligent mind to reason that out. But when ever confronted with the truth you don't seam to…[Read more]

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    Nick…….there you go playing the part of your leader again, Accusing me of the very thing you yourself do as attested to by many on this form not Just me. You say my views have no place in the proper discovery of real truth, but of course you speculations and opinions and Carnal logic does, right? Don;t make me laugh.

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