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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Precept Upon Precept, Line Upon Line… in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 03 2008,17:11)Hi GB,Few members are constantly antagonistic towards people as you seem to have become. You spend more effort attacking people than addressing scripture.Why is that?Nick……see you again turn things to make it seam you are right, instead of staying on subject you start personal attacks, And if there is…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proof that universalism isn't true in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Cato…….Amen, and scriptures do support that view. But the interesting thing to me is even though there are many scriptures that support that view why does Christianity over all supports the view that God will cast his creation into a literal lake of Fire and burn them up for all eternity. I have ask myself what mind set would cause this…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick….tell us which account should we believe then which one do you seeing they contradict each other. And please Don't lay it off on God, God doesn't make mistakes, men do. The scriptures are not as accurat and without error as you think>
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick….that last post somehow got messed up. but one account says Father forgive them thay know not what the do, while another account says ,My God, My God , Hast thou Forsaken Me. two complete different death scenes.Get the book misquoting Jesus It will Plainly show you many.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…..the Death accounts differ, one says God forgive them for they Know not what they do, another says MY GOD<MY GOD<HAS YOU FORSAKEN ME. There are others also not to even mention the mistranslated word.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proof that universalism isn't true in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…….more assumptions,
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Precept Upon Precept, Line Upon Line… in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick……You might, but the ones i Knew didn't Know very much and i Knew a lot of them, not to mention the Hate Paul and completely deny My savior who died for my sins. They draw more rash conclusions then most do. Again you are drawing conclusion about things you seem to know very little about.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universalism in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Irene @ July 03 2008,07:51)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 03 2008,02:21)Irene……the Saints and Jesus will be ruling a Carnal world with Carnal laws , remember those people are not converted , only the Saints and Jesus are, all of God laws will be enforced including the Feast of Tabernacles it plainly says that. The temple will be rebuilt…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic eternal salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…right another way to side step issues.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic eternal salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…….If my salvation depends on me I would never in a million years make it. I have already proven to myself i am a failure, but I fully trust in God the father to create in me a right Heart, YOU can do it any way you want. As for me I'll Just trust My creator.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic eternal salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…..I noticed you fails to complete what peter fully said, what was you true reason behind that, was it because peter said that they Know that already another word he know they already understood those thing before he ever said them why because God was Working in them not because they were going to lose there salvation. And if thats you point…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick….Show us on Person that is mentioned to in the old testament thats going to be in the First resurrection. Pleas be specific if you can.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic eternal salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…So whats your point we all know we enter through much tribulation that a given whats that Got to do with the blessed assurance of our salvation, are you saying to not trust in the power of God who works in Us both to will and do His good pleasure then. OR art you saying it's all up to US and God has nothing to do with it, exactly WHAT are…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick….whats you point? I showed you that the Spirit was (ON) those in the old testement and not (IN) them. Do you want Scriptual proof Jesus read where God told Moses that He would take the Spirit the was (upon) Him and put it (upon) the seventy elders. in the old testament Gods spirit was on them and externally influencing them but in the new…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 18 years, 2 months ago
97….> you as well as i know God's priority order is what he wants it to be and some times its before water baptism and some times it after as scripture has shown .The batasm that counts is Spiritual baptism, When God said in the later days he would pour out His Spirit upon all flesh, He did not say he would pour out water on people did He. This…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic eternal salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 03 2008,06:46)Hi GM, If God could not remove the Spirit why does David pray? Ps5111Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me. We can grieve and quench the SpiritIs6310But they rebelled And grieved His Holy Spirit; Therefore He turned Himself to become their enemy,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Ncik….but are we that perfection now,if not then we are evil and therefore of the devil according to the scripture you quoted and i also quoted where Jesus said (YOU) being EVIL know how to give good gifts ect.So are we of the devil please a straight answer if you can.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…….so i guess you are of the evil one right or are you perfect, and without sin now. So judging from your own words the that would make us all devils. Lets see how you get around this one I am sure you have a way.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 18 years, 2 months ago
Adam…….Just trust God as your were, He who has began a work in you will see it unto completion. There is (NO) such thing as Free WILL, look it up for yourself Study it, it's one of the biggest Lies ever told by Man. There is not one word of (FREE WILL) talked about in scriptures. All Choice are the result of cause and effect, proven over and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 18 years, 2 months ago
Wj…….You did not give the true definition of (Free) Will you gave the definition of Will, not (FREE) Will. The definition in nearly all Dictionaries and wikipda Show (Free) wills, are Wills that Have (NO) influence whatsoever by Past experience or internal influence or external influence , To be Free of all these would leave a person unable to…[Read more]
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