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    Adam………the Gospel is the message to all mankind don't let anyone tell you differently, God sent His son into the (WORLD) Because HE LOVED the WHOLE WORLD, and was not WILLING that ANY PARISH< Don't believes of these self professed Hippocrates who can only quote scriptures out of contexts and push it themselves off as know what their talking…[Read more]

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    Adam…….if you want my advice don't try to convert them , Just express what God Has given you to understand and let Go. Just like casting a Seed those who God is working with will understand, you and I can't convince anyone, It takes the Spirit of truth God to open the eyes of the blind you or I can't. But because they are family Just speak…[Read more]

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    Nick……..so say you, but who made you God I don't think your opinions matter much to God nor does He direct His Saving Work By your desires or thoughts either. Scripture Plainly say God will Save ALL, rather you like it or not. For God would Have (ALL) to be (SAVED) sorry if you can't handle the truth that your problem not ours. The son of man…[Read more]

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    Chosenone…….Salvation is a deliberate act of the WILL of God on His creation. If we understand the SOVEREIGNTY of GOD, to effect (HIS WILL) on (ALL THINGS) then we can realize His work and His Power to transform His creation . People become intimidated by the idea of God's Sovereignty, the typical response is God didn't create robots or…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 18 years, 2 months ago

    Adam…..You have it right there is no such thing as (FREE) will, there is Will but it Far from being (FREE) or why did Jesus say He came to set the captives free them, what were they held captive by, it was there own Wills being controlled by Lusts and pride and other false teachings that held them captive, but the truth will set them free.peace…[Read more]

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    Adam…scripture says, David is both dead and buried, his scripture remains with us to this Day, David is not risen. All who have died are not yet risen to life the only one was Jesus (the first risen from the dead). The dead know not nothing in the day they die their thoughts parish, it says. The spirit goes back to the Lord who gave it. And…[Read more]

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    946727….> I believe if you check out the word created you will find it derived it meaning from the Hebrew word (fatting) , also the word used is not in the past tense in the original, it should be read, God creating them is in his image, which shows a continuing process, this might be the reason in Hebrews there is this idea of entering into…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 18 years, 2 months ago

    Nick….God is in Us and directing our thoughts and guiding us. He is effecting His will in us He is also cleansing us and from all unrighteousness, He is recreating us unto good works this is all being accomplished by (GRACE) which God influencing our Hearts. Our salvation is a work of Alone. How do you think i knew He was guiding you, by you…[Read more]

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    942767…….The canal mind is not subject to the laws of God neither (CAN) be. again For God works in Us both to will and do His good pleasure, again God causes all thing to work for the good of them who love him and are called; there are so many scriptures that show it God who saves us not ourselves. You are saved by (GRACE) and that is not of…[Read more]

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    Nick…there you go again trying to discredit me by lying again , What I said was Don't let some Man tell you that Jesus was the only one who spoke truth. Jesus was (NOT) the ONLY ONE THAT SPOKE TRUTH> The key words here, False Accuser , is (ONLY ONE) and YOU trying to turn it around to where i am saying Jesus did not speak truth. Only again shows…[Read more]

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    Nick….you do that OK, Who's stopping you, Just listen and you might fine some GOLD thats been mined, you might even surprise yourself on what you can learn Nickey boy.:D :D

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    Ncik…. There is not one word or implication of what i said the would suggest i am Judging God or His motives. and where did i suggest i am teaching God anything, you are simple a false accuser and you follow the one who does those things. I think you should be quite and maybe you can learn something Nick, instead of casting dispersions on people…[Read more]

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    (44727…..I quest i would raise was Demas ever really converted, Paul said All in Asia forsook Him at one time. Jesus said many would come to him and say Lord Lord, and He would not recognize them. Not those who say unto me Lord Lord will enter the kingdom But He who does my will (NO),but the will of the Father, not even those who are doing their…[Read more]

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    Nick……they (lost) nothing they never had it in the first place they though their knowledge was going to deliver them and had every thing but one important thing ,(they did not have Oil in their Flasks) Go and get the meaning of that and you will have you answer. I will reserve telling you till oi see your answer.

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 18 years, 2 months ago

    WJ…..the prodigal son thing also proves the cause and effect rule, because He wanted to enjoy the things of the world ,the lust in him was the cause and the effect is what He did, that had nothing to do with Free choice but a driven choice, the lust was the driving force that controlled his will, He was a captive of that lust and it caused him…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 18 years, 2 months ago

    WJ….Your own word prove the point, Remember we are (not) talking about WILL in general but (FREE) WILL, big difference, You said that God A the moment God convects and Draws a man he then choose. Yes he is caused to by God convicting He WJ, Had God not done that would He void of that convection then Freely choose Him , No. the Carnal mind is a…[Read more]

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    Nick….what makes you so sure they lost their salvation, they were simply not in the wedding feast they weren't able to go in at that time. So there you go condemning people by applying more then the scriptures actually say. You need to learn not to do that. If the scripture do not specifically say it why assume it then. This is also what you do…[Read more]

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    9704…..you got it brother. feel my pain.peace………gene:)

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    Adam…..the spirit of God searches the deep things of GoD, don't let some man make you think that Jesus is the only one who spoke truth, He even said those who believed would do greater works then he did, The bible if full of truth and not just from Jesus, you can glean truth every in it, do let so mans, self righetous opinion detour , you from…[Read more]

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    chosenone….I have seen a lot of varied insights here and most are Logical when you conceder the point of views there coming from. but the biggest problem is lack of rules of engagement, like staying on specific subject matter some who can't challenge the posted support given they simply change subject matter,and never acknowledge it as true, so…[Read more]

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