Berean,  Jesus is “exactly” as we are made , he came to his “only” existence through the loins of his earthy Father King David, God took that DNA and planted it in MARY, just like scripture shows  and he said he was going to do to king David.  Jesus never preexisted his birth on this earth,   he is a Son of (from) mankind just  as he said over…[Read more]

Berean…..see you really don’t believe what scripture says do you?  It amazes me how little you people know scriptures.  Berean I give you just one  on this Ok.

Heb 2:18…..“for in that he “himself”  has suffered “being” TEMPTED,  he is able to succour them that are tempted”.   

There are other places also,  like him being “tempted” in the wil…[Read more]

Carmel…..God’s word did come to reality,  his prophetic words he gave to the prophets, it was about the  “flesh” “man” Jesus,  It came into existence when the “man” Jesus was born.  GET IT, it is not saying Jesus “IS” “himself God’s words, he is the “fulfillment”  of what God said He was going to do, through the prophets.  “HIS” ACTUAL WORD ,…[Read more]

Proclaimer…….I guess MOSES was a Moslim then, because he said this, “the LORD your God shall raise up unto you from your brethern a “PROPHET” like unto me, unto him shall you heed”. 

By the way it’s repeated in our bibles three or four times, but believing our scriptures makes us all Moslim’s ,   right?   You seem to have a bad habit of brand…[Read more]

Berean. …..You as Carmel ……put the “man” Jesus ahead of God himself, and you don’t even realize it. JESUS WORSHIPED GOD THE FATHER, AS HIS AND OUR GOD.  you have rejected t h e GREAT COMMANDMENT,   “you shall love the LORD you God, with “ALL”  your heart , and “ALL” your might” ,   this is according to Jesus,  the GREATEST COMMAND…[Read more]

Proclaimer,  if you truly believed what Jesus said, you would do what he said , “this is the greatest commandment, “you shall love the LORD you GOD , WITH “ALL” you heart and with “ALL” your  might,  ” this is the greatest commandment and the second is  like unto it, “you shall love your neighbor  as yourself” , on these two “hinge ” ALL”  the la…[Read more]

Proclaimer,  Jesus was not the “only” one that came from God,  “ADAM AND EVE” CAME “DIRECTLY” FROM GOD. 

Jesus did not come directly from God, he came from Adams and Eve’s , offspring,  “Abraham”,  according to scriptures. 

Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

Danny Dabbs,…….The key is in what way he was begotten? , was it when he was born on this earth,  was it before he was born on this earth, or was it when he was “born again” after he was born on this earth? 

JESUS SAID,  “YOU “MUST” BE BORN AGAIN”, so, was Jesus not the first man to be “BORN AGAIN”   from above, born of the “fullness” of God…[Read more]

Edj……you still don’t get it , there exists no such thing as a Will , that is “free” A will is the result of our “captivated thoughts” those things that “most influence us”  .  Just as it say,  “when they knew God they glorified him  not as God, therefore God turned them over, (where) “in their minds” to do those thing that are unseemly,   sex…[Read more]

Carmel…..We all “realize what you post,but the problem is that not what is written in our scriptures, and therein lies the problem,  what you are posting shows you have been greatly decieved in the past and  as a result  are not able to truly understand the truth of our scriptures, and so you mix and match you own “Catholic” I believe versi…[Read more]

Proclaimer,   your post # 868002,  is the  “most excellent”  Post I have ever seen you post. Seems my our  prayers for you has been answered. Jesus is indeed the human ““pro-type” of what God the Father had in mind for “his human creation” from the very beginning,  this “pro-type” is the exact reason for all the pysical creation.  He has now recie…[Read more]

Carmel…..did you not see where I said “to me”,  another’s words I think  it means,  nowhere did I say I was preaching that as a doctrine of anykind.  The only liar here is you trying to make out , that I am teaching that. 

But here is one quote in Luke from Isa 61:1  that Jesus quoted and I also,  believe backs up what I meant,

Luke 4:18, …[Read more]

Carmel…..What a maze, you run through to twist up our scriptures. So, MOSES AND THE “OTHER” PROPHETS,  themselves were no true “mediators”, between God and men right?  God the Father used many mediators before Jesus was ever born,  had you noticed it say “BUT UNTO “US”  Those who have the Spirit of God in them, true Saint’s of God, bothers of t…[Read more]

Well, Proclaimer,  I gess that’s better the being called a worm,  like Jacob was called,  Or Belsabob and a devil,  drunkard, gluttion , bastard,  like Jesus was called.   But then we do have “freedom” to speak our “captivated”  WILL’S, just like the Pharisees  did,  don’t we?,   A,  WILL that formed by what’s going around in that brain of your. [Read more]

Edj……Where have I ever said,  I  don’t eat meat?  seems you still have your problem  lying about what people say or do.  Espically someone who think our bible is a secret numbering system,  talk about living in a CLOUD,  LOL.

Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

Jesus christ, is GOD the  fathers work in another human being,  not his work in another GOD.

All those who believe Jesus was a GOD,  doing the work of a God “himself”  are unable to believe that GOD THE FATHER  was indeed ‘IN” the man Jesus.  So in calling Jesus a God, they make Jesus who said ‘THE FATHER WAS “IN” HIM,  out to be a liar. <…[Read more]

Berean…..Those  who have the Spirit of God dwelling in them now, have that devine Nature at work in them now. I believe,  AND IT DOES SAY , that they “might” be partakers of, that debine nature. 

So it does show we can recieve it Berean.

Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene

Proclaimer. ….I may have misunderstood what you meant,  I though you were saying there is a Spirit body,  as you, as I recall,  did say we become “SPIRIT” Beings, but I see you did use the words “spritual” bodies,  as meaning physical “Bodies”,  that are spiritually created, that I also believe.

We now have the “earnest”  Spirit of God “in” us “…[Read more]

Carmel…….the whole fall of mankind was known by God the Father before it ever happened, he knew what man was and what was “in’ man he created him that way for the very purpose that now exists in all the earth. DO you really think God the Father who created mankind  didn’t know what he put “in” them? , that they would disobey him?, he even put…[Read more]

Poclaimer, good post,  overall, but one thing is not right,  there is no such thing as a “Spirit body”,  there is a “physical”  body that is “Spiritual” driven.  It is a “Glorified body, which will be given at the resurection, to all the Saint’s of God. A physical  body “exactly as Jesus now has.  But we still now have sin these PRESENT physical  b…[Read more]