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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
Not3in1…..Mandy, you would not condemn your children to eternal death no matter what they did and neither would I and How much more loving is GOD then us, He did not create us in this weaken state to be thrown in to a literal lake of fire and watch 95% of his children scream out into all eternity in pain and anguish for ever, People who picture…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
Nick….Also the word (WAS)GOD is stated lets not leave that out. Just as your words are with you and are partof you so is God's word part of Him, For GOd said (WORD) let there be light and there was light. You can not separate GOD from His words, Jesus said the words are Spirit and GOD is Spirit, you can't arbitrarily separate them in an effort…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
Nick…..There is scripture the back up this point, Job 25:6 …>” how much less a man that is a worm, or the son of man which is a worm”.Isa 41:14…> ” fear not you worm Jacob and you men of Israel.Isa 66:24…> ” and they shall go forth and look upon the carcases of men that have transgressed against Me, for (BECAUSE) (THEIR) WORM shall not…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Christ of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 11 2008,13:03)Yes LU. In all things good God is the giver. It is up to us to respond.If God gives faith, then it is up to us to respond in faith. If God loves us, then we are able to respond in love.If God provides for us, then surely we should also give of ourselves.T8…….If you understood the true meaning of GRACE you would…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
Nick……right presumption is a danger to the truth, so why (presume) what is plainly written in John 1:1 should mean anything else then what it plainly says. why change the word (WORD) to mean the person Jesus then, and disqualify what the Apostle John meant, by saying He meant to say Jesus instead of what He wrote. While Jesus certainly did…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
LU…..you are glorifing the messenger but not the one who sent Him, who is above all, this is something Jesus never did, saying if i glorify myself my glory is nothing, and again Jesus said I have glorified you (GOD) on the earth notice it was not himself he glorified. You need to read Adams post He has it right. Peace…..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Good and Evil in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 1 month ago
David ………There is no way you could know what good was if evil did not exist no more ten you could know what hot was without cold, nor, up without down, nor right without left, no in without out, nor clean without unclean, nor fast without slow, every thing we understand is with comparitive reasoning, thats how we learn and Good and evil are…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 1 month ago
Nick…..Still you put the ultimate works in the hand of man, and limit God's part in our salvation, remember the servant who did not produce was the (FEARFUL) one he had not courage to take any risk and His view of God was a wrong one. But those who had courage and viewed God with a loving view went out and did something they were not driven with…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The gospel in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
Nick……..repentance is not a act of self will, no one can repent on their own, scriptures plainly prove that, Repentance is given by the effectual power of God into the Minds by changing our thinking by his HOLY SPIRIT IN US. Those Jews who killed Jesus did not repent until the Holy Spirit convicted them of their crime and after that they…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 1 month ago
Nick……Please show me where divine wisdom is against what i have said then. I have quoted to you scripture that back up my point and along with common sense it is easily understood. You can not get your way by always saying its (HUMAN LOGIC) or (HUMAN SOURCES), because you can't disprove something, I have given you scriptural proof for what i…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
WJ….i agree with you on this, to me the worm that dieth not, is representing our WILL”S and if they aren't put to death, then the fire (intense Judgments) of God never goes out. Remember it says if thy eye offend (prevent) you pluck it out for it is better that you go into the kingdom with one eye then two have two and be cast into the fire…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
Nick….It says the angles that fell are reserved in chains to be Judged not eternally burned up in a literal fire. First of all a fire could not heart them. You need to makes a complete study on the word FIRE as used in scripture and I think you will find overwhelming evidence that it represents a form of (Intense Judgment) and is not a literal…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Christ of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
Nick….Just to note, in Luke 3:22…> in some of the older manuscripts have the phrase “this day i have begotten you” in place of what is presently written. Also you must remember what Hebrews says and what Paul also said. I think the wording may have been tampered with in the other accounts of the words that came from heaven at Jesus' baptism to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Predestination in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 10 2008,19:01)Hi GB, Scripture disagrees with you.Here is Paul speaking with the saved pleading with them to LET THEIR MINDS BE TRANSFORMED.Rom12 1I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2And be…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 10 2008,17:11)Hi GM, It would be better to let scripture prove itself rather than adding human rationalisations.Let scripture speak and let every man be silent.Looking at Jn1.1-2 for provable understandings one part of the verse is repeated in Scripture.The WORD WAS WITH GOD. It occurs twice in Jn1 and once in 1Jn1. So…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
Nick….Please you surely know a WORD is the Expression of ones intellect. Everyone knows that.It is used as RESPECT to the MIND ALONE.Reason, the mental facility of thinking, meditating, reasoning, Calculating.All of these are processes of intellect from which Word are derived. imo To make Word in John 1:1 appear to say Jesus is to make all…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Predestination in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
David….Jesus told his disciples they did not chose Him He chose them. The scripture you quoted about choosing for yourself who yo will serve was talking to carnal minded people who did not chose right as history shows and the carnal mind is enmity to God and is not subject to the laws (NEITHER CAN INDEED BE), you are comparing the Carnal with…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Christ of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
Lu….If you care to look up the scripture in Heb 12:2 you quoted your will find the word (OUR) was added and is not in the original at all. Jesus is indeed the author and finisher of Faith, and we will also do what his example was. He is what we must become to please God the Father like He did, No difference from him.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Christ of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 10 2008,04:47)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2008,12:07)LU…..Where does it say Jesus is the Author of Faith, Abraham had Faith and Jesus wasn't even born yet, as well as David and many others.peace……….geneGene,If it did say He was the author of faith would you then believe. I doubt it. Read my post again and you…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Predestination in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 1 month ago
David …..what your saying is we work our way into the kingdom and your leaving God out of the picture, It is God who Causes Salvation to take place in the first place, For you are saved by GRACE (Gods influencing on the heart) and that (NOT) of yourself. And what about the potter and the clay analogy. I agree with Nick that God predestines His…[Read more]
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