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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Precept Upon Precept, Line Upon Line… in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years ago
Nick……your creating scripture to meet you ideologies the word of GOD stands and its not just one scripture you disagree with but many. You constantly use the out, that everyone else is using “HUMAN” logic or “WORLDLY” logic, and now, word are only written to Saints and no one else. Thats your way of pick and choosing which you have no way of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years ago
T8…….. You are right you are not GOD an nothing does (ORIGINATE) withing you. The collections of thoughts were installed in you through you life and you simple chose from them and as a result your choice was caused and had nothing to do with a free choice because the word free choice means without (ANY) Influencing what so ever, from past or…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years ago
T8……..You might be more of a robot then you think you are, Proof (there is not one thought you think that did not come into you from a outside source. All Good that every will exist always existed, and all Evil that will ever exist always existed. For the is (NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN) we are told. People who want to be a God unto there selves…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years ago
Nick…..But He has said it is (NOT) His WILL that (ANY) Parish. And it does say GOD does (ALL) things after the Council of His own WILL. And it Does say He has concluded (ALL) under sin in order that He might Have Mercy on (ALL). Right. And it does say (ALL) of Israel shall be saved. And it does say I (GOD) will take out of you the heart of stone…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years ago
Mandy…..put this in you thinking, GOD is going to (SAVE EVERYONE) ultimately and it won't seem so bad , at this time He has chosen just a few to be in the 1000 year period and serve with Christ the rest of man kind of a thousand years for a purpose God wants to get across, But the rest of (ALL) of man Kind will as WJ and I and others Have Said.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Love in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Samuel……..Love is a word that according to the Greek has several ways of expressing it self. But i think it can be some what confusing if every time we show love we have to define it some way as brotherly love , love of God, love for your country and etc. So to me Love is just a simple thing, heres what i think love is in its simplest terms.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Death in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Nick….Jesus philosophized more then you think he did. He used His GOD given mind and reasoned with it also. Even when he was a child, he reasoned with the leaders of the temple it says. You attach worldly to everything you disagree with in order to dismiss it as useless, its you way of putting someone down, which i find quite annoying, Nick, you…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
T8….good lets go through it slow, first lets establish, (the) beginning, as to what beginning John was talking about, and seeing there is no mention of (the) earth by the definite article then we must presume John was talking about the beginning of everything that exists including God himself. So how did God exist and in what way did he exist…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Death in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Nick………..the Philosophy that Jesus Followed. The scriptures i quoted prove that point so what Philosophy do you follow them. You remind me of the Pharisees who constantly were look for something to accuse Jesus off ,even saying he was making Himself equal with God the Father which was nothing but a lie, Jesus was never trying to makes…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Nick…..i think you are the one decieved , we all know somethings more then Jesus did at that time because as Jesus Said Knowledge would be increased and greater thing would you do then i. It's you who does not believe the words of Jesus or you would understand his words. And when did i (EVER SAY) i know more then GOD. When are you going to stop…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Nick…….Jodi as well as i have explained our beliefs on this and you are trying to make it to be like we are against Jesus and the apostles which is falsehood on you part. Where did we say we did not believe in evil spirits and Satan, we said we believed that they are not separate beings jumping in and out of people at will, as you and other…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic False teachers in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Nick…….again where did i say Jesus did not understand any thing as you are trying to make it out to be , i said Jesus did not have (ALL) knowledge and HE said that HIM self, so quite trying to twist up what i said. I do not believe my grasp of GOD is tenuous at all thats just your opinion not everyone else's. Your constant condescending on me…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic False teachers in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Nick…..where did i say this Carnal man spoke (from Ignorance) and the apostles falsely recorded his words. I believe you are the one speak from (IGNORANCE) of what i said. But as in the past it does not seam to bother you to misrepresent what other say. And please don't ask me stupid questions as if i did not know Jesus and the Apostles were…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Nick….Where did Jesus ever say He know everything or for that matter where did the apostles say they knew everything, in fact one of them said they only seen through a dark glass. where did i say i did not believe in the word spoken by Jesus, Because i say Jesus Spoke the FATHERS words and not His own does mean i do not believe them, I just…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic False teachers in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Nick…….there you go again putting words in my mouth. Jesus overcame His carnal mind Just like we are supposed to by the power of God's spirit. He was tempted in all points as were are therefore he had to have been born with carnal nature. Because the Father (CAN NOT) be (TEMPTED) by sin, But Jesus was tempted as we are also, therefore in order…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Sacraments in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years ago
Nick……….some teach that the wine turn to Jesus' blood and the bread turns to His actual flesh, if that not cannibalistic i don't know what is. While it does say we are to take Jesus flesh and blood to our selves by the word (EAT) that is symbolic language, not literal eating it, but applying His sacrifice to ourselves.IMOpeace to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years ago
Mandy….I meant to also say we indeed are a new creation in Christ but even that is a work of God, Remember “For God works (ALL) things acording to the Council of His OWN WILL, and we are (CREATED) unto good works. Inorder to be reated unto good works it requires a creator of it. IMOIMO. love ………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years ago
Mandy….I think you are right i believe that all thing are determined by ONE GOD, who has purposed all things in advance and nothing is Just happenstance. God said He knew the (END) from the Beginning that would require intervention of some kind and intervention in a general sense, is every little event that way i don't know, i think we do have…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Irene……..i know how you see it, and i respect you views, But i would have you answer one thing first how is it possible for a WORD to actually (BECOME FLESH) that is impossible because a word is Spirit and not Flesh. But it could come to be (IN FLESH) and that is what Happened God's words were in Jesus Just as He said, but He also said the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago
Nick……the disciples as well as Jesus was educated and articulated the present existence of their day. Do you actually think they had the knowledge of our day?, they did not, some of them could not even read or write , while the Spirit gave them some spiritual understanding as to who Jesus was and His message , but to think they had the…[Read more]
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