Nick…..So much for you posted confusion to try to support you theology but, Jesus plainly said the FATHER WAS IN HIM, Please explain how was He In HIM if Not by his spirit. What i said was right it was the spirit of God in Jesus or the Anointing that was in Him was God's Spirit. And if that (SAME) Spirit be in us (IT) will Quicken our mortal…[Read more]

T8….my point was to show that a definite article can be used as a descriptor of a Nouns attribute also. Like (THE) wood House . the definite article is part of the descriptor of the house and we then also could say (THE) wood was with the House and the wood was the house. Wood is part of what the House is composed of right. So it is not…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 19 2008,18:19)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 19 2008,16:13)Nick………If you understood what it means to be reborn you would know that GOD considers us temples in which He can indwell and where it says let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus it's the same mind of God, but that is not our mind but the mind of God…[Read more]

Irene…..what's so important about John 1:1, is trinitarians as well as preexistences can not find any other scripture that shows were Jesus is said to specifically preexist at all so they all uses John to try to get across they point, because if they can get people to see Jesus as the Word John is speaking of they both have a specific scripture…[Read more]

Nick………right God the Father does Share His Spirit and that's the spirit that is in us and Jesus.

Nick……yes, so whats that got to do with what we are talking about.

Nick…….we are (ALL) sinners there is none rightetious no not (ONE) , God said, He looked for (ONE) and could not find (ONE) therefore He took it upon His (OWN) arm to being salvation. Jesus said why call me good there is (ONLY) ONE who is good and that is GOD. Cant you see God comes into us and co-habits with us in our bodies. No you not that…[Read more]

Nick……..so John could not have Just said Jesus, but in your opinion had to hid it in Rev 19.I think your stretching it Nick. I my opinion John said exactly what he meant to say and i have no problem with it just as it is stated, So why do trinitarians and preexistences do then. Face it you need to do that to support both your theologies.…[Read more]

Nick………If you understood what it means to be reborn you would know that GOD considers us temples in which He can indwell and where it says let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus it's the same mind of God, but that is not our mind but the mind of God and that mind has a will just as your mind does and we through the power of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 19 2008,11:01)Hi WJ, Mine reads rather 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. It does not say GOD was with GODthat would make two GODS and we know your anxieties about that.So what of a “trinity member” anointing another, with a third while only one is called God?Nick………it…[Read more]

WJ….i believe we sin because of the body of sin that we still have and at times we are brought into captivity by it. But when we are we have an advocate with the Father, why would we need an advocate if we never would sin after we recieve the Spirit then. And if your have (FREE WILL) then why do you sin at times. Surely you would chose not to…[Read more]

Nick…..Paul said he found when he would do good there was evil present bringing him into captivity. Why did not Paul say he always chose what was right then , why did he say with his mind he served the law of God but with his body the law of sin and death, and called himself a wretched man then. Why did he seem to not be able to always serve God…[Read more]

Nick……you need to clarify the spirit of Christ you seem to present it as of Jesus Himself rather then as the spirit from GOD. To me the Spirit of the anointing that was in Jesus is more accurate. I may have misunderstood you.peace ……gene

ZB…..Amen good post.peace to you and yours…….gene

T8….you resisted the sin because greater was he that was in you then he that is in the world, You will (always) chose the greatest influence at the time of choice this has been proved time and time again. Why did Paul express the when he said when he would do good he found a the influence of evil there and the good that he would do he did not do…[Read more]

T8….and the definite article does not separate the puppet from the Show does it, because it is (the ) puppet show.

T8………this whole thing about John 1:1 is what trinitarians us to do two things , one to try to show Jesus' preexistence and His Identity as the God of creation. Both preexistences and trinitarians hinge the belief system on this simple verse and the word Jesus is not even in it. It's all just smoke and mirrors, the truth is that John was…[Read more]

T8………what i am saying is applying the definite article to Logos, does (Not) make it a Person an attribute can also be used with definite articles also. for instance (the) intellect of (the) man guided Him, or (the) intellect of man guides him. in both cases the definite article is not separating the man from his intellect is it even though…[Read more]

Adam…….thats right , Jesus had the Spirit (intellect) of GOD in HIM, and we are told to let this MIND (Intellect) be in us also, and if it does (IT) will quicken our mortal bodies also like it did Jesus'. It All (ONE) GOD and ONE Spirit of GOD that was in Jesus and is in all who have, it the same Spirit that was and is in Jesus, that GOD may…[Read more]

Nick…….. i agree with that, so who is putting on a punch and Judy show Nick. And I know full well he is real, He has shown me that Hundreds of times in my life i don't kid myself about what He can and will do at all, He has showed me that also many many times.Nick…please stop talking down to me i have been involved with the Father and the…[Read more]