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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Nick……lets just say Jesus talked to people on there level of understanding. As i told you before if you incest on what Jesus said as a literal fact then you must accept when Jesus said Peter was Satan He either meant Peter was literately Satan or as Jodi brought out He was simply meaning He was an adversary. And the Satan (adversary) attitude…[Read more]

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    Oxy…….But Jesus said the words were not His words, what do we do with that then, while he can be the spokesman of God and relay GOD”S words to us , that does not make the Word does it.. Jesus is the word of God in a representative state not actual state. He relayed God's words to us. Just as He said He did, “the words i am telling you are…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Oxy………good to hear from you Brother.peace to you and yours………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    T8………with all that so-called evidence then why has the idea of Jesus preexistences be argued by thousand of Scholars for Centuries if it is so clear as you suppose it is. Why has it boiled down to John 1:1 as the only (Specific) proof text then. That trinitarians use to prove Jesus' preexistence and equality with God then. Not One text you…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Nick………by what i have just stated i am not saying God Himself does not inflect evil conditions on man at times, because scripture plainly shows He has, just wanted to clarify that.peace ……….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 26 2008,18:12)Hi Jodi, The spirit of the world.The fruit of such is all shown in Gal5Nick……they are received into the heart of man from the world, but once in the heart they are expressed by there words and actions for all that in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life comes from…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    WJ…..it is man who has the evil workings in his heart that defiles him not some other being that is jumping in and out of him as you seen to think. Jesus said the things that defile the man come from (HIS) own Heart , not some thing else, and thats what defiles the man. Jodi and Newton are both right on this. IMOpeace………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Nick……Jesus called Peter SATAN so do you believe SATAN WAS PETER Because Jesus called Him that. If You don't believe Peter is SATAN then I guess i could say the same thing about you, you don't Believe Jesus do you. You deny His words you must not be a believer then. If you say the Pharisees were not really the DEVILS children then you are…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Nick………your making that call not me I believe Jesus was speaking to them on there level of understanding at that time they were completely emerged in pagan thought and practices. Show us one place where Jesus every said Satan was a Specific Person or there was a specific Devil going around jumping in and out of people. You problem is you…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Love in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Samuel…..remember that saying, e mono, e mono, i probably spelled it wrong but it means one on one, that the way it is With The Father and Us. Most people don't even know what their doing or saying. I think we all fall into that category at times and that includes me also. We all only see in part, but some day we will all see clearly. And as far…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Adam…..one thing about John 1:1, we don't have to switch any meanings and we understand it Just as it is written , i wish others could see that.love and peace to you and yours…………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    WJ….And Nick….>.Here is Just a few of many descriptions of Newton, Newton lived 300 years ago (1642-1727), was on of the greatest geniuses in all history—Perhaps the greatest, He is called the Father of modern science and the industrial revolution. he discovered many scientific laws. God chose Isaac Newton to impart many of His deepest…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Jodi………I agree with that post.Love to you and yours Jodi…………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Nick……..quite trying to brand me as a devout because I happen to think Newton was right in his observation of the devil. peace…………….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Nick…today we call it chemistry not alchemy. You need to really check out what you are saying Nick. There was a reason the Kingdoms branded everyone who dealt with chemistry in those days as alchemist, they were afraid that they would discover how to create Gold and that would destory their monetary system of their day. There was no chemist only…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    WJ…….you are wrong about Newton he certainly was a bible scholar as recent reveled letters have shown He did large biblical studies on the Bible and bible prophesies. He included God in all his observations including gravity. I will try to find where i read about his linguistic abilities.peace…….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Nick…….Jesus never said Satan was an actual begin did he and if He did, then Peter must have been Him, Because we all know Jesus did not lie, and the Pharisees were literal sons of their Father the DEVIL. I think you and WJ need to reexamine you belief system in demons and devils, imo .peace……….gene

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    Ztheberean……….Amen Also brother. It's (ALL ABOUT GRACE)Love and peace to you and yours………gene

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    WJ……why is God then manifested to us, why not actually exist to us , not as an image as scripture says Jesus is , and we are also made in His image, are we then fully GOD as He is because we are being created into His image. The definition of image is to reflect, or mirror something, but as Nick brought out, it is not the very thing. God is…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Nick…..NO, Isaac Newton was (NOT) a Satanist but was falsely accused of it as Jesus was also, by carnal minded people, who themselves were servants of Satan and did not even know it. All alchemist were accused to be satanist in his day. If you were to study the reason for that you could understand why. Discrediting a man as brilliant as Newton…[Read more]

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