Nick….what that got to do with what i said?

Irene….Prov 8 is talking about WISDOM a primary attribute of GOD the FATHER HIMSELF. The word Jesus is nowhere in the texts, you simply putting it there. Read Prov 8:1-3, wisdom here is described as a women not a man. Jesus was a man. This is just metaphor of wisdom. That the way it appears to me SIS.peace and love to you and…[Read more]

Nick…..You need not tell me what i think is against Jesus, because you do not understand what he meant when he spoke. Many can read His words but do they understand them (NO)> There is nothing me or Jodi or Isaac Newton have said that is against Jesus' words. You are looking through fleshly eyes and can not see the spiritual meanings in Christ…[Read more]

T8…..I believe you are wrong in this, no scripture (SPECIFICALLY) says Jesus was a live being before He was born on earth. But as Adam brought out GOD did SPECIFICALLY SAY, He (ALONE) and BY HIMSELF did it. If you want to us except you teachings then you must answer these Specific scriptures. Peace to you and yours T8………………..gene

Jodi….You have correctly explained scripture. The only SATINS are men THEMSELVES. THE carnal MIND IS AN ENEMY of GOD not subject to the laws of GOD Neither CAN BE> this is the natural mind not a mind under the leadership of another god BEING. It a mind lead by its lusts and pride. John said (ALL) that in the world , the lust of the flesh , the…[Read more]

Nick….the Satan was his own Human mature , if you would have read further you would have seen where Jesus prayed that his Faith would not fail. Peter was extremely carnal natured, and needed Jesus' prayers to assist him. imo

Nick…..congratulations you now are realizing that the “Satans' were the people themselves, good thats progress.

Nick…..congratulations you now are realizing that the “Satans' were the people themselves, good thats progress.

Tiffany……the Lucifer you speak of, the bible say was a (MAN), GO back and reread about Lucifer. He was the King of Babylon a very powerful king that ruled the entire world of his day, and the gardens were the ancient gardens of Babylon considered to be one of the seven wonders of the world. IMOLove to you and yours……………pgene

Nick…….your forgetting they were all carnal minded and they all chose the way of the flesh. Your comparing the CARNAL mind with THE SPIRITUAL MIND , big difference. What you quoted only proves the point , with out GOD working in a person they (can not chose) God's way, and will alway chose the wrong , unless GOD is directing there Choices,…[Read more]

Chosenone…….I agree with what you have said, epically that God will ultimately save all. I hope you will continue to post Here, I know your frustrations here. Peace to you and yours brother…………….gene

Nick….You say man is ruled by the adversary, what is the adversary is it a being , or a spirit (intellect) of the person himself. Jodi and I and Jesus, have correctly shown it is the person Himself who is the ADVERSARY. Jesus was correct in calling Peter Satan (adversary) because his carnal mind was functioning as a Satan as all man kind does. imo

gollamudi……Amen, brother, but Nick believes Jesus preexisted unless he has changed his mind. What you have quoted is the truth there is only one GOD and CREATOR and that's GOD the FATHER ALONE. love and peace to you and yours……………gene

Shifting sands then? Why because a person learns as he or she goes along . I really think your losing it NICK. Even an idiot knows people learn as the grow in understanding and maturity, and you call this shifting sands.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 22 2008,06:40)GB, Interesting. You say”It's the baptism of the Spirit that Causes us to die with Christ and if you do not know that , “So where is this written?” IF YOU HAVE DIED WITH CHRIST YOU SHALL ALSO LIVE WITH HIM, FOR WE HAVE (BURIED) WITH HIM BY THE BAPTISM OF THE SPIRIT, “Seems to be an adapted form of the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 22 2008,06:40)GB, Interesting. You say”It's the baptism of the Spirit that Causes us to die with Christ and if you do not know that , “So where is this written?” IF YOU HAVE DIED WITH CHRIST YOU SHALL ALSO LIVE WITH HIM, FOR WE HAVE (BURIED) WITH HIM BY THE BAPTISM OF THE SPIRIT, “Seems to be an adapted form of the…[Read more]

Nick…..non of what you have quoted can or will work with out the GRACE OF GOD (God's influencing on the heart). NO ONE EVER REPENTED WITHOUT THE GRACE OF GOD CAUSING IT TO HAPPEN> YOU still trust in your own self and thats you problem you think you can save your self, and in reality are an enemy of GOD, you just don't realize it. You do not…[Read more]

Nick….No, I LOVE GOD and the Love of GOD shed around in my heart casts out fear. What is in you heart that causes you to continue to Fear and Trimble. You are not being perfected, because it says (Nothing is Perfected in FEAR.) So you stick with your fear religion, I stick with the Love of GOD, OK>

Quote (Jodi @ Sep. 22 2008,12:11)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 21 2008,15:34)Hi Jodi,Ephesians 6:12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, NOTbut against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.HEAVENLY PLACESHow does your interpretation make…[Read more]

Shania…….Good post. Its our own hearts that defile us , not some supposed other being going around jumping in and out of us. The devil is our own adversarial hearts. Jodi is right in what she said. IMO