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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick….washing of water (BY) the word. Now what did Jesus say the words were, they (ARE SPIRIT) the washing here is the washing by the Spirit. John said for I indeed do baptize with water, (BUT) Jesus would Baptize withe (SPIRIT) and (FIRE) . even John new there was a difference. Water is symbolically referencing SPIRIT used for cleansing a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is baptism needed for salvation? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick….washing of water (BY) the word. Now what did Jesus say the words were, they (ARE SPIRIT) the washing here is the washing by the Spirit. John said for I indeed do baptize with water, (BUT) Jesus would Baptize withe (SPIRIT) and (FIRE) . even John new there was a difference. Water is symbolically referencing SPIRIT used for cleansing a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 11 months ago
Mandy…..Chosenone and I are right we have already been qualified to eternal life by GOD the FATHER through the Blood of Jesus and the effectual working of GOD HIMSELF through His GRACE. If you fail at something simply pray about it and the FATHER will forgive you and cleans you from all SIN, it's ALL a WORK of OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. He has no…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Grace in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick….It's you who is boasting trying to have superior Knowledge not Us, Your the one always injecting your unwanted conjectures and half quoted scriptures into the subjects we discussing. WE just give our opinions and you come along with a condescending attitude no one else, only you.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick….you would not know if they were or not in my opinion, It takes the SPIRIT of GOD to understand them, “they have ears to hear but hear not, eyes to see and see not., that should be you quest , not trying to say who GOD will save or not. Your limitations on GOD are from you mind not scripture or Jesus' words. For Christ died not for our…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The gospel in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick….what makes you so sure your not a heathen, Have you elevated yourself over others. Whats interesting is you equate something to others you think you are not going to recieve. You may be in for a big surprise. But scripture says so you Judge , so shall it be rendered unto you. And again He who condemns anther condemns Himself. Where does…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The gospel in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick….it also says GOD is (NO) respecter of Persons. What GOD has done of others He will also do for ALL Mankind and It says ALL Israel shall be saved and GOD has concluded (ALL) under sin that HE might have Mercy on (ALL) . YOUR selective scripture hunting is no the general teaching of GOD'S word. But you are trying to make it fit your…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Grace in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
NIck….you know as well as I that not (ALL) Israel nor (ALL) gentiles received in them the operation of GRACE, at this time, it will happen in the future, does it not say (ALL) of Israel shall be SAVED. Nick…there seems to be so many simple things you just don't understand , you need to really stop and think about what you are saying a little more.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick….whatever , the bible is full of errors and mistranslations, that why it takes the Spirit to understand it. It's not as easy and straight forward as some seem to think. In fact without God's Spirit you can't understand it. IMO
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Grace in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick…..You assumption that they all had the grace of GOd on them is an error , Israel had no grace at work (IN) them in the old testament. They were simple Carnal Natured, and could not truly repent of anything, because their minds were carnal. You just do not know what grace is is the problem, and you would rather it be up to you to save…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The gospel in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Quote (Tiffany @ Sep. 20 2008,11:10)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2008,03:18)Nick………In all those scriptures you quoted and rightly by the way, Yet that does not do away with where Jesus said they (WOULD) go into the Kingdom of God, even if it is after the tax collectors and Prostitutes go in. Cant you see in this that God's WILL and intent…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Demons in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick…..if you don't know what a SPIRIT IS how could you possible Know the rest?
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Grace in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick….all those God granted GRACE and REPENTANCE do produce fruit , because the Spirit of GOD produces it in them. DO you even understand what conversion is?
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Ncik…Jesus was not influenced by Pagans the people were as it is today. It's the lack of understanding the truth thats was the problem now as it was then. We are not taking anything away from Jesus' words it your lack of understand what he was talking about thats the problem. Today the “Church” lies in total Apostate ruin. The first thing Jesus…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Will of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick…is it the TEN CHOICES GOD GAVE< OR THE TEN (COMMANDMENTS) HE GAVE. Why do you think He (commanded them) instead of saying chose for your self what right of wrong. It doesn't matter what choices God gave them they just could not chose the right way, and the point is made clear by history, You can not compare a CARNAL mind, with a SPIRITUAL…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick……the truth of God in this world is always resisted as Chosenone brought out, Most go along with the world religions and there teachings. Such as the trinity, devils and demons, preexistence of Jesus, a literal lake of fire, water baptisms, salvation of only a few and not all of mankind, and many more false teachings, “Christianity” has…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick…..the grubby heart is not washed by the shed blood of the lamb. We are washed by the Holy Spirit through the SPIRITUAL BAPTISM Given us by GOD the FATHER, Jesus' shed blood brought us the forgiveness of our sins by way of his payment through the effectual working of GOD'S Spirit in him, That same Spirit is what changes our thinking and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is baptism needed for salvation? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick…..the grubby heart is not washed by the shed blood of the lamb. We are washed by the Holy Spirit through the SPIRITUAL BAPTISM Given us by GOD the FATHER, Jesus' shed blood brought us the forgiveness of our sins by way of his payment through the effectual working of GOD'S Spirit in him, That same Spirit is what changes our thinking and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Isaac Newton in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick…..right Isaac Newton did not claim to be (the) truth , He uncovered it. Very few claim his teachings on the bible , like you and many most trinitarians also.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Intellect in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick…..free intellects are the intellects of good and evil, and they go freely in and out of everyone that has a mind.
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