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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick…They were washed by the word, “the (WORDS) I speak unto you (ARE) SPIRIT and LIFE. They were the words of truth but only understood when the Spirit of Truth came , However when it comes, the spirit (INTELLECT) of truth come it will bring into you memory all that i have told you. Nick, the water baptism had nothing to do with their…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is baptism needed for salvation? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick…They were washed by the word, “the (WORDS) I speak unto you (ARE) SPIRIT and LIFE. They were the words of truth but only understood when the Spirit of Truth came , However when it comes, the spirit (INTELLECT) of truth come it will bring into you memory all that i have told you. Nick, the water baptism had nothing to do with their…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Who is this Jesus? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Chosenone…..I think you can privately contact me through heave net, but if not MY email address is –, genealthrop@att,net, i would like very much to Discuss our common walk and interests. Jodi i was surprised to find was a X WWCG member also, and it think Irene and He husband was to. Very interesting , Have you ever went to L Ray Smiths, web…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Who is this Jesus? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
David…..You are a JW right?, at least thats what i thought you were. I personally know some and they truly think they are the only true church and will do what ever their leaders or (Elders) at the top say. In my opinion they are no better then any other religious organization. In Fact i find them more controlling then most religions are over…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Judgements in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick….Carnal minds think in carnal ways. Spiritual minds think in Spiritual way. He who preaches a gospel of fear will eat of what he preaches it will be the plate served back to him. He who preaches destruction of others will himself reap destruction of himself. God is Just and will render unto ever man according to his works. The fearful and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
942767…..Sodom and Gomorrah were examples of judgments and indeed the cities as well as the people were destroyed by real fire. But do you think that they were eternally destroyed eternally. Then how could they be resurrected and Judged in the second resurrection then. All have sinned and come short of the glory of GOD. Mat 10:15 …> Verily…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick….None of the brothers were converted either they were still carnal right?, until the baptism if the Spirit and Fire. So there water baptism did nothing for them did it, but their Spiritual Baptism did right. There ministry did not truly even start until they received power from on High, they did not get that from getting wet following the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is baptism needed for salvation? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick….None of the brothers were converted either they were still carnal right?, until the baptism if the Spirit and Fire. So there water baptism did nothing for them did it, but their Spiritual Baptism did right. There ministry did not truly even start until they received power from on High, they did not get that from getting wet following the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
942767….. Jude 1:14…> “and Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying , Behole, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints to execute judgement upon (ALL) and to CONVINCE (ALL) that are ungodly among them of all thier ungodly deeds which they have ungodly commited, and of all their (HARD) speeches which ingodly…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Quote (gollamudi @ Sep. 26 2008,20:50)Hi all,Here are some arguements on Jn 1:1 which I have taken from a site. Please gothrough with open mind.” In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” (John 1:1) Perceived by the “man of extraordinary faith”: The verse says; In the beginning was Jesus, an…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 17 years, 11 months ago
To all……when Jesus came to John to be (water baptized) John said unto Him ” Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with Holy Ghost and Fire. Verse 13..> then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is baptism needed for salvation? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
To all……when Jesus came to John to be (water baptized) John said unto Him ” Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with Holy Ghost and Fire. Verse 13..> then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick….as i said you evidently don't understand what is really said, where does it say worship reason and not God. Your rush to find fault has blinded you reason and understanding of what i have quoted. DO i have to take you through what Thomas Jefferson said step by sept so you can understand what HE meant, or do you have enough mastery of our…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 11 months ago
(42767….Ultimately they will be saved (YET as BY FIRE) My point was there is no one righteous no not ONE> Even Jesus said why call me good , there is (NONE GOOD) except ONE that is GOD. It Just that simple. If God can save you or me He can save anyone He choses to. And if it's His will not any parish, why should i assume any will then, who am…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Nick…..How does that put my cards on the table, your losing it man!. Thats not my quote it's Thomas Jefferson's. However God would (MORE APPROVE) of Homage OF REASON which is what you preach. Nick in your rush to discredit me you miss read what it says and who said it. Try to read it again. Only this time think about It NICK.

GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 11 months ago
942767….Rom 3:10….> As it is written, there is none righteous, no not one, verse 12..> they are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable: there is none that doth good , NO NOT ONE. So who was obeying God Prior? God has concluded (ALL) UNDER SIN< that He might have mercy on ALL. Jesus died for the sins of all humanity and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
To All……..Fix Reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with BOLDNESS even the existence of A GOD ; because if there be one, He must more approve of the homage of REASON, than that of BLINDFOLD FEAR.Something to think about, it was written by the Father of our Declaration of Independence , Thomas…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Shania….1 John 2:2…> And He himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours (ONLY) but (ALSO) for the (WHOLE WORLD).love to you and yours……………………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
DK…. your making the word devil a person, the word devil is (NOT) a person , it is (the) evil in the person , The evil in the person makes him a devil, not some separate being. Please reread what Jodi wrote and think about it brother.love to you and yours……………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 11 months ago
Adam…..you have correctly present John 1:1, brother, if John was meaning Jesus he simply would have written it there instead the word Logos. May God continue to bless you with understanding of the truth.love to you and yours…………….gene
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