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    To all……..I think a good question to ask is Satan a HE, or and IT. He would make him a person of some kind, and it would could make it a spirit of some kind, like a evil spirit which is the product of evil influences. I tend to personally think Satan is a IT simply a produce of what is evil and can exist anywhere, not like a individual person…[Read more]

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    To All……….Jesus said (no) man (can) come unto Me except the Father draw Him. This shows that we do not of our own selves go to Jesus but it is a (work) of the Father Not of our so-called “free wills'. Also Paul said said He took no credit for His works, saying “I labored more then all the rest, YET NOT I, BUT THE GRACE OF GOD> Paul did not…[Read more]

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    Nick…….The question is not does a Satan exist its, is Satan a single person or is it and adversarial spirit that is ever where in the hearts and minds of people thats the question Not if the word Satan imply a single person or not. we all know an adversarial spirit (intellect) does exist. The question also is how does it or he function in…[Read more]

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    Nick…..were did Newton say something different then Jesus, is it wise to condemn some one even when you don't understand exactly what the were saying if Newton is not speaking What Jesus said then explain where and what is wrong with what He or anyone else says. But to cast dispersions on someone Faith is not very Godly epically if they disagree…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Dec. 01 2008,14:06)Quote Jos 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. 942767……… If you…[Read more]

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    942767………..Amen to that brother. WE shall all be SALTED with FIRE. True statement.

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    Nick…..Please get that out of your mind I see Newton as a brother who believed God and Jesus, and i do not trifle Jesus teaching and am in (FULL) agreement with what Jesus says. Because i know the Father has given His every word to say and He is truly speaking the words of the Father to us.The Father has placed our brother Jesus in the family as…[Read more]

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    942767…..Please show me where it says when FAITH COMES MAN HAS A CHOICE as to whether or not they will repent and serve God. Please show me this written in scripture. Jesus said (NO MAN CAN) even come unto me unless the FATHER DRAW HIM, and if you check out the word draw you will find it comes from the word drag. Do you understand God works in…[Read more]

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    Nick….so say you , but what risk does your philosophy of “SELF CHOICE” SALVATION, put you in. I believe i am in good alignment with GOD'S Plan and WILL to save (ALL) through intense judgments ultimately, thanks. Fact is i had no idea there even was such a universalist Philosophy until you mentioned it Nick. What i have posted here is from all my…[Read more]

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    942767………your partial post only confuse the subject , or did you forget to read where Paul said it was GOD who Hardened them in the first place, and He can soften there heart and restore them. You need to read the whole context of what Paul was talking about and not pick and chose what fit your theology. If you and Nick don;t know GOD is in…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 01 2008,11:31)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 30 2008,14:53)Laurel……….Here is one for all to consider, Mat 21:31…> Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him , the first, Jesus saith them, Verily I say unto you, that the publicans and the Harlots (GO) into the Kingdom of GOD before You…[Read more]

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    942767………it didn't say all the Israel of God did it” , it simply said (all Israel shall be saved) so you change it to fit your belief system and what do you do where in Titus it says GOD's the savior of all men. He would have all men to be saved, are you saying He can't or wont do that. If so them your God is week and unable to save any…[Read more]

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    942767………what makes you think that I am talking about Faith< i am talking about Your own so-called "FREE WILLS", I totally agree with the point James makes about Faith, but that Faith did not come from a man own so-call "FREE WILL" it came from God Himself not the man. " for God Has (GIVEN) every man a measure of Faith. So even that FAITH…[Read more]

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    Nick…..> that proves my point Jesus did not say to the disciples they chose Him but HE chose them, Jesus under the direct influence of GOD chose the disciples whom GOD had already chosen caused them to follow Jesus. No where does this back up a individual choice by Jesus Himself. Jesus Said about the disciples when praying to God Father they…[Read more]

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    Nick………….Do you want me to rewrite the scripture so you can see it again , no, if you disagree with those scriptures that fine with me but to say i am reading between the lines, then why don't you tell what it means then instead of making snide remarks brother. Quite trying to make it a case about me it's not about me its about what is…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 01 2008,06:11)GB, No armchair ride is possible. We reach salvation through many tribulations.Walk while the light is with you for night is coming on when none can walk.Nick…..who is advocating a armchair religion i am certainly not. God has required Judgments on all evil and the tribulations that comes is the result of…[Read more]

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    (42767……God holds all accountable because it proves his point “their is none righteous except God , a righteous man has righteousness (ascribed) to Him by God not by his works but by his FAITH in GOD even as Abraham did, Abraham's faith was (accounted ) to him for righteousness not that He himself (WAS) righteous, and even that Faith was given…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 30 2008,19:04)GB, Should we read between the lines and that is good enough to call truth?Nick………I am not reading between the lines I have stated as it is said, you can either except it or not brother.love to you……………………gene

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    942767……….no what i am saying Jesus said they will go into the kingdom of God's and obviously for that to happen they will someday repent as God gives them repentance in His time they will all Be grafted back into the olive tree. Just as it says for (ALL) of Israel (SHALL) be SAVED. Again 942767 your trying to make salvation about (OUR OWN…[Read more]

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    To All……> there is no such thing as “FREE WILL” you and i chose from what the greatest influence in our minds, and those influenced were put there by past experiences and If God does not put His influence in you mind you simply can (NEVER) chose his way on your own. Salvation is a work of GOD brought about by HIS GRACE (God's influencing on…[Read more]

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