Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 17 2009,09:43)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 17 2009,09:36)Jw…….If it say the whole cration lies in darkness, does that exclude you 600 scholars, if a blind teaching like the Trinity starts and 600 more people who believe in it, work the scriptures to support it, what would you expect from your fellow indoctrinated…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 17 2009,04:34)GB, You say in another post”…………First i want to address the “let use” issue, remember the word GOD is a (uniplural) word  meaning POWERS which in of it self not indicative of any person as such, but the POWERS of the person. There are seven powers or eyes or intellects or Spirits that operate as ONE…[Read more]

Jw…….If it say the whole cration lies in darkness, does that exclude you 600 scholars, if a blind teaching like the Trinity starts and 600 more people who believe in it, work the scriptures to support it, what would you expect from your fellow indoctrinated believers, something different?. No Just more of the same, right. And speaking of…[Read more]

Nick……you never cease to amaze me at the level of your ignorance, Vers 7 , go back and reread it only this time stop and think use your God given Brain for a change. (they (KNEW) they were (NAKED), After they ate, that means they did not know it before, now why or how did they become aware of it, was it not because they ATE (took to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 17 2009,04:37)GB,You say in another thread.”” Good and Evil are Spirits (intellects) of GOD and they going to and fro through out the earth,” So to you Jesus is the Son of a mixture of good and evil powers. You need to hear the gospel.Nick………if you understood that all intellect come from God you would have no…[Read more]

T8………..If you understand that the word (GOD) is the uniplural expression of the LORD (HE EXISTS) with Powers, it even clears up John 1:1. The word (WORD) is the combined intellect that controls those POWERS, and thats what was in the beginning and created everything and it also is the light (intellect ) that lightens every one coming into…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 16 2009,18:11)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 16 2009,15:21)t8……..and no scripture you posted say He preexisted in any form what so ever. You have to slightly force the text to say that. Don't you think that such a issue would have been a big part of the gospel,  and thoroughly explained in great detail if it were true.peace and…[Read more]

t8……..and no scripture you posted say He preexisted in any form what so ever. You have to slightly force the text to say that. Don't you think that such a issue would have been a big part of the gospel, and thoroughly explained in great detail if it were true.peace and love to you and yours……………….gene

t8……..Scripture is also more clear that God Created everything by himself and alone , you know this, it has been posted here many times, How do you deal with them do you just throw them out of your bible if not then please explain them to us. Because what your saying, other scriptures say the opposite to what those scriptures say. So help us…[Read more]

WJ………if the whole world lies in deception, what excludes you thousand of commentators and 600 Scholars from not being? Is there safety in numbers or what if the blind lead the blind and they (ALL) fall in the ditch.peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 16 2009,13:27)Gene.If the word messenger means messenger, then it doesn't have preexistence or no existence meanings built in.t8……….i agree with that also, just because you say messenger of the new covenant does not imply preexistence of any kind. T8 , brother is you go through it real so and think about what scripture says…[Read more]

Nick……….Above i meant to say Adultery has nothing to do with SEX but just breaking Covenant only.peace and love……………..gene

Nick…..because you don't understand what Jesus was saying doesn't mean no one does. Scripture does not condemn them because they were not sinning , but because you don't understand what Jesus was saying you are not able to explain it Nick. But lets see let me uses some of my God given intellect and see if we can figure it out, its really quite…[Read more]

To all………John was a messenger sent from God. Jesus was also a messenger sent from God to, so why do you believe Jesus prexisted and John did not. They were both messengers sent by GOD. There is no scripture showing any preexistent operation of Jesus anywhere. If there is show it, Kerwin and Meerkat both have it right, Jesus existed only in…[Read more]

Nick……….i thought it was GOD who joins us to Christ, not ourselves. Then again Jesus must have been lying when he said (NO) ONE CAN come unto Me except the Father draw (Greek drag) Him. Tell me do you want us to remove that from our bibles, as you evidently have.peace……………….gene

Nick……..so say you and is it you who decides if a Scientist or Scholar or anyone else for that matter is Carnal minded or Spiritual Did GOD give you some authority to make that decision as you seem to think you have. Amazing how puffed up a little religion can make people become. To position their selves as Judges of others they don't even…[Read more]

meerkat…………….i also see it that way to, Jesus was to be before Abraham in Rank and position.love and peace to you and yours………………………gene

Kerwin……….All who have the Spirit of GOD and sons and daughters of GOD. AS scripture plainly says, “no you not that your (ARE) the sons of GOD”.peace and love and welcome to the site………………………gene

Nick……….do you even know what your even talking about, is that all you can do is just set around jabbering about stupid nonsense and falsely accuse people who disagree with you. love and peace……………………gene

Nick……….you can claim who ever you want , but when you act as if whats quoted dose not exist , that has nothing with the truth that is denial of truth. Your offer your beliefs ahead of anyone including Scripture itself, as has been seen here many times. So if i were you i wouldn't put down anyone it seem your pride has puffed you up to try…[Read more]