Seeking ……….Your have just preached the Gospel brother, you have it right. Our Heavenly Father is forming us to be His (exact image) by His Spirit. Thats why we never give up, if we fail we have more Grace for He adds Grace unto Grace, and we get up, ask for forgiveness brush ourself off and try not to sin again, we never get discouraged…[Read more]

Seeking ……….  You are right EL means Might or mountain, and Elohim Means MIGHTY POWERS, The LORD GOD can not stand alone He is composed of SEVEN SPIRITS these are POWERS called Elohim. They can not take a singular position in that context unless we add the word (LORD) then we have (HE EXISTS WITH POWERS)  The He would represent an i…[Read more]

Kerwin………..Absolutely, GOD the Father does give power to overcome sins, and we should be becoming perfected, while we are not 100% yet we with GOD'S help should be growing, until we come to the the full measure if Christ as Scripture says. Those who have GOD'S Spirit will always be seeking Him. love and peace to you and…[Read more]

Thinker………remember Jesus said God is Spirit, and there are (SEVEN Spirits of GOD) These are seven powers that compose (ONE) LORD GOD. When we say the LORD we are referencing the complete seven Spirits which compose Him. They are Intellect POWERS. These Seven intellects spoke and said lets make man our image. The represent the creative powers…[Read more]

Thinker ………Jesus said the Flesh profits nothing I didn't, Jesus was meaning that as a general statement , His sacrifice of his life was the point of profit to us not his flesh, his flesh was simply attached to him as with us, And we will some day shed it as He did. Flesh is simply a tempary housing but we have a permanent house to be given…[Read more]

thinker ……brother no the word (WORD) imply s the (ATTRIBUTE) of a person the Same as the word (GOD) by it self that attribute can fit any person . Intelligent utterance is what we all do unless a person is deaf and cant make the sounds needed. A word is an intellegent expression and shows action. The LORD GOD (SPOKE) let there be light and…[Read more]

thinker………the question was do you see any difference between Jesus and Us there. Thinker GOD the FATHER can not DIE and is NOT tempted by SIN , as Jesus was and did die also. There is no point for any GOD preexisting being to come and DIE for Us. What point would there be in that. Please explain it, if there is a point for that to happen. I…[Read more]

Seeking……………true brother. we need to continue, and if God Grace is working in us, we will strive for the High Calling brother. We have not reached it yet but we are not of them that turn back, no matter what, even if we sin , we get up and brush ourselves of and continue to strive for the kingdom of GOD. Always remember our calling of…[Read more]

Seeking………Lets say God (could be the greatest influence always) but remember we are here to learn lessons and one is the effects of sin in our lives, so that we come to hate it. and may be that is why at this present time we do no completely overcome the effects of sin God could completely remove sin if He wanted to from US, but maybe its…[Read more]

thinker………Jesus said the flesh profits (nothing) so why would GOD choose to become a flesh and blood human being then , seeing the flesh profits nothing. And also since sin came by man then by man sin is atoned for. There is absolute no reason for GOD the FATHER to become a human being. For perfection to walk in perfection serves no purpose…[Read more]

thinker …..I think Nick's point is how could Jesus be GOD the FATHER and Worship GOD the FATHER also. Jesus plainly said i am going to (MY) GOD and (YOUR) GOD , (MY ) FATHER and (YOUR) FATHER, do you see any difference between Him and US there.love and peace to you and yours brother…………………………………….gene

Mandy…………. good point. If we understand man was created in this condition for a specific purpose by LORD, in order for us to learn from the sufferings of the flesh about good and evil effects. We can understand why GOD the Father did this . Our present physical states are only a temporal state and our present bodies were designed for a…[Read more]

Lu……….I do not think Jesus was himself ever (the) true light himself, because it says He was the (image) of GOD. This to me means He reflected the true GOD to us, and as we grow in understanding we to will be more and more reflecting the true GOD also because GOD the Father is creating us into His image also.  Remember the word Image is…[Read more]

seeking ……….You ask why do men still fail, lets let Paul answer this.. For when i would do good i find Evil in me, a law (force compliance) in my members (Flesh) that war against the law (force compliance ) of my mind (Spirit) these two are opposite one another, So i can not do the things i Would, “O” wretched man that i am who can deliver…[Read more]

thinker………maybe this will help. Isa 37:16…> O LORD of hosts, God (POWERS) of Israel, that dwells between cherubims, thou are God (POWERS) alone of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth. Now let me paraphrase it for you, “O” LORD (HE Exists) of Hosts, POWER of Israel. that dwells between the cherubims, you are the…[Read more]

seeking …………you are mixing up the unconverted with the converted , there is a big difference , not every one has the HOLY SPIRIT to work in them at this time. So you can't mix them up. Those who have not the spirit will choose from the greatest influencing in them , Just as those with the Spirit will choose from the greatest influencing in…[Read more]

LU…………i don't think we are that far apart as to the light issue, i believe Jesus reflects to us the Light of God the Father. The reason i believe that is because there is only one truth, and Jesus is said to (IMAGE) GOD so, because the word Image means to reflect or mirror something or some one i assume Jesus is like a reflector of the one…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 10 2009,06:15)Gene said to WJ:Quote Because I also believe GOD (ALONE) created everything,Gene,Don't throw us a “change up” now my bro. Recently you have repeatedly said that impersonal “powers” created all things. I refer to your repeated statements in the “Elohim” thread in the “Truth or Tradition” forum. You clearly…[Read more]

Thinker……. I agree with that no one has risen yet except Jesus. imo., I don't know about Nick, He might just be taking a break that can be good once and a while. love and peace to you and yours……………………………………….gene

To All……….the word LOGOS is simply word, it does not imply a person. It is a descriptor and simply means intelligent utterance. because thats what a (word) is. and nothing more. Trinitarians and preexistences try to turn logos into a person rather then an attribute of the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD, so they alter the text by capitalizing and…[Read more]