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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Elohim in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker ……..It was God who spoke directly to the prophets Via His Spirit, and the same GOD spoke to Jesus Via the Same Spirit and Jesus spoke to us what that God told Him to say, the same as the prophets told the people of their day. Same GOD , Same Spirit, Same POWER. Jesus plainly said that it was GOD the FATHER (IN) him doing the WORKS. its…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
Nick………..What was Jesus saying when He said the (WORDS) i am telling (ARE) SPIRIT. Then ask yourself what is (a word) is it not and expression of Intellect or Knowledge. Now there is your answer, use your GOD given brain and Put it together.love and peace………………………………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
Nick……John 1:3 In Him (GOD) was life, and the life was the light (intellect) of men. That is talking about The Spirit or intellect that is from the FATHER HIMSELF (NOT) Jesus. This Spiritual intellect gives man his thinking ability, and it came from GOD Himself. Just about all that chapter is talking about GOD the FATHER HIMSELF. He came to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker……….It would be like saying a the battery is the car itself, while it is part of the car and along with other components make up ONE CAR but the battery of itself is not the CAR. There are SEVEN Spirits (INTELLECTS) of GOD and each Have power, and all together they are POWERS (ELOHIM) or GOD. All these have the same meaning. These…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
Nick………..If the (word) is of GOD and enlightens every man coming into the world , then how can you say that God is not there Father also ,Jesus said ' call no man father, but one is you father even GOD. But you seem content to contradict Jesus' words. He told us to pray (OUR) Father which art in Heaven, was that a prayer for just Him and the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Ronald Weinland: 2008 God's Final Witness in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 17 years, 5 months ago
To all………..I am no prophet, but Luke 21: 25-28, shows that there is something celestial taking place at Jesus' return…> 25 ..and there shall be signs in the sum, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the wave roaring; Men's hearts failing them because of fear; and looking…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 17 years, 5 months ago
Nick………..good to see your back, brother, was getting worried about you…………..Sorry i am not following your questions could you clarify please. We are not talking about Heathens brother , but the (way) we keep Gods commandments. IS It it through the works of (LAW) or the SPIRIT of GOD, Shedding His love around in our Hearts. love and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 17 years, 5 months ago
Seeking …………remember it says the love of God fulfills (the) Law or(ten commandments), “For Love fullfilleth the law” Now this love of God is also said to be shed around in our Hearts. While we are not under obligation to keep the commandments by works of Law, but we through the working of the Spirit of GOD do fulfill the required intent…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 17 years, 5 months ago
seeking…………….Gal 5:18………..> is the key verse ……….> but if your are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law (should read under LAW, with the definite article (the ) there. So paraphrased, it means a person lead by the Spirit to keep the LORDS Commandment is not Keeping them by the way Law works, (through forced…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker………….these seven Spirits that make up (ONE Elohim) or Powers are indeed personal but they are not personal to themselves but attributes of the LORD and all whom He gives them to. What do you think it means GOD in all and through ALL then. These attributes of the Spirit Powers or GOD are in Human beings . Why do you think it says the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Elohim in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker……….Jesus said God is a Spirit, and we are told there are seven spirits of GOD. So that does show a uniplural composition. And according to the Hebrew scholar Jeff Beanner , GOD is a uniplural word Meaning (POWERS) a plural form of Powers. This agree with idea of the seven spirits (INTELLECTS) representing ONE TRUE GOD> or Group of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker…….you as well as I Know flesh is not , nor ever can be a “WORD”. that is my point obviously scripture does not say what is impossible, So the only other possible explanation is that the (word) came to be in Jesus, as He said it was, The words i am telling you are not mine but the words of Him that sent me. Thinker Jesus simply relayed…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker………..as i said before Logos (WORD) can not ever (BE)Flesh, (it) can only come to dwell in flesh. The word (intellect) was in Jesus because it was given Him through the (Christos) or Anointing of (HOLY SPIRIT) or HOLY INTELLECT. Not Because He preexisted with it before, But he recieved the (in grafted words) through th Anointing , thus…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Elohim in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker……….this may be where we differ , I beleive (ALL) intellect comes from (ONE) Source, even ours. Intellect only existes because it was brought into existence and is given to Us , Summed intellect is Spirit expressed through words. Jesus said the words He poke to us are spirit and they are life. What was SPIRIT and Life (WORDS), The…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker……….where it say (HE) can be many other words as the concordance shows (IT) is just as like as HE or HIM and in this case (It) would imply (POWERS) or GOD> in any case you don't see Jesus' name there do you. So to insert Jesus as the He or It is forcing the text. And therefore Why should we make believe its referring to Jesus when His…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker…….all these things you have stated are symbolic, and are not to be taken literial , So people think that the wine actually turns to blood when they drink it, and the bread turns into flesh when they eat it, These are just symbols to cause us to relate to the death of Jesus for our sins, and He was simply telling us we need to take to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 6 months ago
To All……> a problem that exists with us is we apply things to scriptures that are not specifically said. For instance we say the (US) in Genesis means Jesus and a (ONE) GOD or Jesus as a GOD and another GOD, and another Holy Spirit GOD, but the text does not say that we simple added it to the text. Thinker thinks GOD is referencing a triune…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 6 months ago
Thinker……….Ask any Hebrew linguist and they will tell you that Elohim is a plural word meaning (POWERS) in fact even a standard concordance will tell you that Elohim means Power. it is a a uni-plural word, what does that mean, it means its one GROUP, as say family does not mean one individual but many members of it, as a group but it is only…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Light in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 6 months ago
LU………that works if you believe Jesus was what John 1:1 was talking about, but as i have explained Jhon was not talking about Jesus at all< he was talking about GOD the Father , and the word (intellegent utterance) which comes from our intellect is what enlightens every man comming into the world. When we try to make the text say or mean…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 6 months ago
942767……………indeed He is Power of power and LORD of Lords…………….as Jesus said the (ONLY) TRUE GOD,ELOHIM, or POWER.love and peace to you and yours……………………………………………………………gene
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