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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
Carmel….. Jesus did every thing The only true God told him to do, so that makes him a servant of “his God, and “OUR” God, his Father and “OUR” Father”. according to Jesus, we have the exact same relationship with the Father, who is both our God ,as he does.
The true question here is why do yo people never stop trying to make Jesus c…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
Berean…..What you just quoted proved it.
But unto us (true believers ) there is but “ONE” God, the Father , of whom are “ALL” things, and we “in” him;
Berean……just digest that part first ok, and let it sink in. Before you finish reading the rest, of the sentence ok, now tell us who actually “made”, “ALL” things. Was it the son, the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
To all…..Jesus spent his whole life on this earth “glorifying”, God the Father. Saying , “I have “glorified” you on the earth”.
Trinitarians, ..spend all their time “robbing God the Father of his glory and giving it to Jesus. Something Jesus Christ never would even think of doing.
Now ask yourself what did God do to Ancient Israel when th…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
Berean…..God himself and alone created everything that exists, Jesus himself never created anything, he himself never did not one miracle either himself, it was God the Father alone who did it all, and no one else.
The ‘him’ you are referring to is GOD the “ONLY” TRUE GOD”, that is if you “truly” believe what Jesus Christ himself said, but it…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
Mike….your first two posts to LU, Were perfect IMO. Your last post, i see different, because it says, In the beginning was the word and the word was with God, and “WAS GOD” . This to me simply shows God and his word are one and the same.
The man Jesus, “became”, a “new” , Creation of God, the First of the human creation of God to go int…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 4 years, 10 months ago
Carmel…..Wh not just say you can’t answer it, because it completely destroys your post about Jesus being “himself”, the word. Simple as that!
Peace and love to you and yours……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 4 years, 10 months ago
Carmel…..Tell us what does this mean to you, OK? Jesus said this,
“The words I am telling you are “NOT MY WORDS”, but the words of him that set me”. Please don’t run all over the place trying to twist up this ‘SIMPLE’ question.
peace and love to you and yours………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 4 years, 10 months ago
To all……the attributes of God can clearly be seen in his creation, there are “SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD. Each Spirit represent a distinct characteristic of him, and is found in the thing he has created, each of us possess some of them, some more then others. That to me is why it says when we die the spirit returns to him that gave it. Rev…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 4 years, 10 months ago
Proclaimer…..God’s word never became flesh “itself” that is impossible for any word to become flesh, No one has ever seen a flesh word, what that scripture is telling us, is that “GOD’S WORD” , the words, he spoke through his prophets, came into being, it was the “flesh man Jesus “. That to me is the only way that scripture can make any sense…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 4 years, 10 months ago
Berean…..Simple question , why does it not say ,“his name “IS” the word of God then, or he “IS” God’s word, as you “falsely preach?
Why does Jesus speak a message to the seven churches and then say, after he gives that message , he that has ears to hear, let him here what the “SPIRIT” is saying unto the churches ?
We know God the Fathe…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 4 years, 10 months ago
Berean….Evidently you did not read the scriptures I posted, or you read them and simply chose not to believe them. So not only you don’t believe What God the Father himself says, you don’t even believe what Jesus Christ HIMSELF SAYS either.
Can’t you understand, if scripture meant Jesus was actually the word of God himself, it would have sai…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 4 years, 10 months ago
Berean….can you separate “your words” from you?
Neither can God the Father separate his words from himself, are you so ignorant you really don’t that?
Please show us where God, “ever said”, his words are different then him.
This only goes to show how truly your thinking is screwed up Berean, if you don’t even know that.You cannot remo…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 4 years, 10 months ago
Berean…..Scripture please, not one scripture “says” Jesus “is” the word of God, not one, please show us the scripture that says that. Now i want an actual scripture that says that “exactly”, not some text where you change the wording, or force it to fit your false assumptions, to try to make Jesus into a deity, by saying he himse…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 4 years, 10 months ago
Proclaimer……Is your words you, or somebody else? God and his word are the same , Why?, because the words of God are given by God himself, God gave Jesus his words to tell us.
Jesus plainly said, “the words I am telling you “are not “MY” Words, but the “Words” of him who sent me>That means to me that Jesus “himself” , did not origin…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Forgiven through Christ in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 10 months ago
Proclaimer, Jesus said “no man is greater”, Does that mean no man was “as” great, as?, or does that mean to say Jesus therefore was not a human being?
Don’t you think John knew full well who Jesus was destined to become, and acknowledged it.peace and love to you and yours……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Forgiven through Christ in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 11 months ago
Berean…..We are telling you the “whole truth” , which you are unable to understand, because of not truly loving truth, and have been sent unto you the “deluding Spirit from God” , and as a result have believed a “LIE”, and that “LIE” is, that Jesus is your GOD, and you along with the “many” in Christianity, have turned, the human being , Jesu…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Forgiven through Christ in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 11 months ago
Jodi…..Absolutely perfect, right on, the Good New, is about God the Fathers purpose “from the beginning” that “he might be “in all”, and “through all”. It never was about Jesus being a PREEXISTING, God and “coming to this earth as a temporary human half breed”, who could do nothing of himself, and then returning Back to his, God positi…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 11 months ago
Mike…..Have you read the last quote that Jodi gave to LU? , absolutely amazing how the Spirit of truth , is guiding her mind, and the solid soundness of scripture being afforded her. Read he post
peace and love to you and yours……….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 11 months ago
Carmel….. Isn’t there even one scripture you can quote without changing it.
Phil 2:11…..”and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is lord, “TO” the glory of God the Father.
Not ” “IN” the glory of God, but “TO” the glory of God the Father
God the Father gives “HIS” Glory, to “NO” man, your the one doing that, not him nor…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The antichrist in the forum Prophecy 4 years, 11 months ago
To all…..There is no real thing as a Antichrist person. It is a “false image”, of Jesus being a God, which was started by the apostate churches, at the time of the Apostles Paul and John. John coined the phrase Antichrist. From the fact that the Gnostics taught that Jesus did not need to be “anointed” like all flesh human being have to , bec…[Read more]
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