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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Will all men be saved? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago
Nick………….come on most have never even head of the Salvation of GOD much less the true Jesus. What part of this you don't Believe, “GOD HAS CONCLUDED (ALL) UNDER SIN THAT HE MIGHT HAVE MERCY ON (ALL) NOT COUNTING THERE TRANSGRESSIONS AGAINST THEM”> Do you see the word (FEW) there or is it (ALL). We should not change scripture to fit our t…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago
Jeff……….You are right on, in fact because people don't know what SPIRIT really is Has caused much, much. confusion . It is a basic question that must be understood to understand many scriptures. So i offer the words of Jesus describing Spirit. Joh 6:63….> It is the spirit that quickens, the flesh profits nothing: the (words) that i speak…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The first fruits in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years ago
TO all………The first fruits apply to the first to be harvested from the earth of humanity, but as in nature the biggest crop is the fall harvest by far. That is when the rest of man kind will be saved. Did Jesus really say that every person the was not in Him would be cut out from him and cast into the fire, OR did he say that every branch in…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago
Jeff……….Wisdom is (ONE) of the attributes of the ONE GOD , He has seven distinct SPIRITS or ATTRIBUTES OR INTELLECTS, Wisdom is just one of them, wisdom is (NOT) a person it is SPIRIT. When GOD said “let (US) create man”, the US was the SEVEN SPIRITS (INTELLECTS ) or ATTRIBUTES of the ONE GOD which now are before His very throne itself. I…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The New Testament Canon in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years ago
Mandy….basically you have describe worldly religion, and you are right, but don't you think God is able to reveal the truth to those He calles . Didn't Jesus say “You Shall all be taught BY GOD” I think its when we put to much into mans religions is where we get in trouble. If we put our trust in God the Father and make our inquires from Him ,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Resurrection of the dead? in the forum View Points 17 years ago
Georg…….Scripture say the rest of the dead live not until the thousand years are (finished). No where does it say they will gradually be raised during the Millennium rule of Jesus and the Saints. IMOpeace and love to you and Irene……………………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Resurrection of the dead? in the forum View Points 17 years ago
eveh………The spirit does return to Him (GOD) who gave it, as scripture says, and scripture also says the dead know nothing , in the day they die (their) thoughts parish, no longer exist. Without a body for Spirit to animate there is no life for us. ONLY GOD can exist outside of a BODY, we can not. Spirit must exist in a body or it is useless.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago
Jeff……………I commend you on seeking GOD word through LOGIC and understanding. GOD is logical and understandably in His word. The spirit we have recieved is very logical . “For we have not recieved the SPIRIT (INTELLECT) of Fear, but of love and power and of a (SOUND) MIND”. GOD spirit above all thing (IS) logical, in fact it gives logic to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago
Jeff…………I do agree that the Spirit of GOD does produce Sons of GOD. I have no problem with that, But the scripture that say (BY) can be rendered , for, or through. Christ Jesus or the messiah did not exist at the time of the creation at all, only in the plan of GOD He existed and it was for this very purpose GOD created the whole creation…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Second chance salvation in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago
NIck………none of those show a chance , it simply say whosoever believes may have eternal life , But who is he that believes < (ONLY those whom GOD the /FATHER brings to Jesus , that has nothing to do with a (CHANCE) God does not take Chances NICK, He knows exactly what He is doing and HOW to get it done, a mans salvation is not in his own…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Will all men be saved? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago
NIck………I was in the WWCOG, for seven years , and I never heard them say there was a second chance in fact they taught just the opposite that you only have one chance when i was in there, of course things may have changed i don't know . They did say that the rest of the world would get there (FIRST) Chance at salvation after their…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Second chance salvation in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago
TO ALL………Where does the word CHANCE appear in scripture. Where does it say you are given a first CHANCE at SALVATION AT. I read we can't even go to Jesus unless THE FATHER draws US. If we are saved by GRACE and that NOT of ourselves , where does CHANCE come at. Is He that starts a WORK in US UNABLE to COMPLETE IT? Is GOD'S power to save so…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago
Nick……..That my story and i am sticking to it.
peace and love to you and yours………………..geneGeneBalthrop replied to the topic Resurrection of the dead? in the forum View Points 17 years ago
eveh…….I believe we will be given new (BODIES) of Flesh and BONE (as Jesus Has). It will be an exact copy of our Human bodies, even to the number of hairs on our heads. We will look the same except it will be a body that will self regenerate for ever and cannot die. And Spirit will be added into it and we will become a living SOUL once again.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago
WL……… WL…….Yes INTELLECT but far from simple Spirit can be coupled with POWER as in the case GOD the FATHER and Jesus now He has these seven Spirits of GOD couple with seven HORNS (POWER) REV 5:6. Show were Spirits were fighting anywhere in scripture. Show where a SPIRIT IS a Being. Spirit is what is (IN) the being Not the being it…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago
Nick……….Jesus the lamb does not have seven angles in his head , He has the seven SPIRITS of GOD, as scripture say he does.gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago
Nick………Show scripture where it say there are only (ONE) Spirit of GOD. ALL the SPIRITS (intellects)of GOD are SPIRIT. Spirit is a general term for INTELLECTS, And these Spirit (intellects) are expressed in Word, as Jesus said “the words i am telling you (they) ARE Spirit and life”.WE are also told toe TRY the (SPIRITS) Plural to see if…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago
Nick………Read revelations and you will see there are (SEVEN) SPIRITS (intellects) of GOD. And Jesus has all seven of them as scripture says, your disagreement is with scripture not me. IMOpeace and love…………………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago
WL………The spirit is not of GOD it is GOD, and as you say (It) makes us son as it did Jesus. It is the seed of GOD himself that abides in those who have it, like it says “for his seed abides in you”. Remember Jesus said GOD is a SPIRIT, There are seven spirits of GOD and Jesus has all seven in HIM as shown in REVELATIONS. These seven spirits…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago
WI………….Nick has a point GOD is not Separate from his SPIRIT, remember Jesus said GOD (IS) SPIRIT. So he can't be separate from it. When Jesus said the FATHER was (IN) HIM he was meaning He GOD was TRULY IN HIM, how by HIS SPIRIT which is HIM. The problem is understanding what SPIRIT it. Here is a good example Jesus said because He can't…[Read more]
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