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    Adam…..I don’t believe it was Jesus who delivered us,   Believe it was God he Father himself who delivered us. By sacrificing his human Lamb,  Jesus Christ.

    Let explain why, Scripture says there is no forgiveness of sin , without the shedding of blood right?,  that even applied to ancient Israel, so what does that all mean , in regards to God.…[Read more]

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    Adam……I also believe God was talking about king Cyrus,  in Isa 46:11, to deliver Israel from the Babylonians .

    But the fact remains that God also delivered us from eternal death, by offering up of his human Lamb, Jesus Christ, our lord right?

    Adam……You made reference about the variance of Psalms 8:3 and the book of Hebrews 2: 6–9,  a…[Read more]

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    Adam…….Great posts brother,  lets hope they take it to heart.  Jesus in prayer said , this is eternal life, that they believe in “YOU” the “ONLY ” TRUE GOD”. Jesus knew full well there was only “ONE” TRUE GOD”.

    peace and love to you and yours ………gene

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    Berean……It was God the father who saves his world and us to. Not Jesus .
    It was God the Father who so loved the world the “HE” gave his only begotten Son. 
    It was not Jesus who did that,  why do you people continue try to rob God the Father, Jesus never did that. If you truly believed in Jesus and what he said you understand that. IMO

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    Adam…. We need to remember and keep in mind,  to  Paul the known world in his day, only consisted of a small part of this whole world. He may have believed that in his day.  Another point to consider, was the Septuagint even available in the time of Paul? I will have to check that out. The Apostle Paul to me had a very great understanding of th…[Read more]

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    Carmel……You are without a doubt the most corrupter of scriptures then anyone here or for that matter was ever here.  The video, What Mike posted about you is something you should really consider. IMO

    Carmel I may hate what you preach, but remember I don’t hate you.

    peace and love to you and yours……..gene

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    Mike…..Greek word (pro) 

    a primary preposition “fore”, that is, in front of, prior (figuratively SUPERIOR ) to. In compounds it retains the same significance:- “above” , ago, “before”, or ever.

    The overall meaning in the text is Jesus Christ is SUPERIOR, OR MORE IMPORTANT , to those people, then Abraham was or is.

    peace and love to you an…[Read more]

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    Berean……The seven Spirits “of” God are what God used to create everything he created, they are what composes the very mind of God, they are what  gives life to his whole creation, the are all present in them in one way or another, “for the hidden attributes  of God are seen by the things that are “CREATED”,  that is what gives the man Jes…[Read more]

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    Jodi……another excellent post.

    peace and love to you and yours………gene

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    Berean…..dose it say “let us “Jesus Christ “, make man in our image”?
    or are you simply forcing the text to say that by adding words that are not there? See that’s the point to all this confusion that exists here, people are adding to our texts there own opinions .

    There “seven spirits of God”,  which go throughout the earth,  what makes…[Read more]

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    Adam…….I believe those writers were true believers, but the text was corrupted, by the translators who we’re ‘trinitarian.  The used words that could be taken may different ways, like the Greek word “dia” For instance,  that actual word means “for the purpose of ” , Jesus as a representation of all final  humanity , was God’s goal for all hi…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer…..The new testament is about God’s work in mankind,  with Jesus being the first fruits, of them that sleep, the first of “many brothers”, to be raised  and give eternal life.  Not be given ” back” eternal life, as you false teachers preach.

    The New Testament teaches us how to have a right relationship with The “ONE” AND “ONLY” ,…[Read more]

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    Berean…….no scripture says that,  that is just you forcing the text to say what in fact it doesn’t specifically say, as you do so many other scriptures. Forcing our text to say things not said in our Old Testament scriptures and not even aligning  with them, is definitely not what Jesus ever did or even  thought of doing.

    peace and love to y…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer……IF God “made” “ALL THINGS ” , what did Jesus Make?

    Please tell me what part did Jesus play? Seeing God made it all?

    Are you saying God Can do nothing without Jesus? I thought it was Jesus who said he could do ‘”NOTHING ” of himself.

    Tell me what does this scripture mean to you?

    Isa 42:5….this says God the LORD, That creat…[Read more]

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    Adam….Thanks for your input brother. I know your frustration here brother , but it is good to understand that we must bear witness of the truth also, brother .  Being faithful to the truth that has been given us, has it’s rewards in the end brother.

    There is only a short time left , the process of our lord Jesus our brother is all ready st…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer….it’s not the scripture you posted,  it’s the spin you and others put on them,  shows how  much change Christianity has put on them also. How do we know this? Because they contradict the  original Hebrew OT texts,  which Paul told us to compare them to. Even Jesus himself said that “MANY” would come preaching him and “DECEIVE MA…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer…… Bible says this,

    Gen 1: 1…..In the beginning God “created” the heaven “and” the earth.

    Pro 16 : 4…The LORD has made “all”things “for himself “ yea even the wicked for the day of evil.
    Mark 13: 19…For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not “from the “beginning” of creation  which “God” created unto this time ne…[Read more]

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    ADAM….quite right brother,  New Testament translators has corrupted the truth of God,   No true scripture says Jesus ever created any thing, even he said he couldn’t do anything himself.  No scripture says Jesus himself is God the Fathers word either.  They  that say that d0n’t realize Jesus is fulfillment of God the fathers word.  He is not no…[Read more]

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    Adam…..i believe God know from the very beginning of his human creation that man would fail and sin.  Scripture tells us God knows the end. From the beginning, So if that be true, then he know man would sin even when he created him. In fact i believe it was his purpose and plan for man to sin.

    The question is why? ,  Here is how i see it,  …[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop posted a new activity comment 4 years, 10 months ago

    God’s word, came to pass, it was the “flesh man” Jesus, who was the fulfillment of what the word “of God” predicted, through the prophets. It is not saying Jesus “is” God the Fathers word himself. But he was the fulfilled word of GOD .

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