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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Jesus did not pre-exist in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 10 months ago
Nick……….And why should presume that martian does mean that , do you think he is so stupid as to not know none of us has reached perfection yet. I think you just want to argue Because he does not agree with all you dogmas. You could have just ask for him to clarify what he meant, to see where he was coming from, and then give you points on…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Jesus did not pre-exist in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 10 months ago
Nick….. I think martian meant we all (COME) future tense not Came past tense. None of us have reached it yet but we should be growing in grace and knowledge. Jesus is indeed the DOOR and the WAY, that was martians point. IMOpeace and love………………………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Jesus did not pre-exist in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (martian @ Nov. 09 2009,03:55)The question becomes when did “He” begin? As you have pointed out Christ has preeminence over the rest of creation. He is the firstborn from the dead. That cannot happen until after his death.Without Christ all of Creation loses it's purpose. this is why he is the first of creation. He is preeminent. He is the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan is in the lake of fire in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 10 months ago
DB……..your making a demon or devil a being, when it is not it is a Spirit (intellect) mental condition effecting him . Some are worse then others . The man did have an (adversarial ) spirit in his mind but not some being of some kind as false pagan religions teach. Again because you do not KNOW what SPIRIT (means) you are caught up in the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 08 2009,09:57)Hi M, It does not need to be proved from logical outcomes that Jesus came from above. He said so.Nick………Please post where Jesus said He (CAME) from above, your inserting your own word there. Change meanings to make it appear the way you and preexistences want it to appear. Ike Jesus saying before…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Ed J…………You are right the word is and was GOD. John 1:1 no where mentions Jesus' name and rather these people believe it or not John knew how to spell Jesus' name if that is who he was referring to. False religion has interchanged the word (word) for Jesus. Just like a mans words are connected to him so are God's words connected to him a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Jesus …..said GOD (IS) A SPIRIT, He (IS) pure SPIRIT, the ONLY true SPIRIT BEING in EXISTENCE, GOD is What thought or intellect (IS), there are SEVEN (intellects) or SPIRITS of ONE GOD. Jesus now has All SEVEN in HIM coupled with Powers. These are the seven SPIRITS that go to and fro through all the EARTH. They give life to all creation, SPIRIT…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago
Martian………..Good post, i like you research skills. I believe the glory of God is His strengths also. He also said He gives (his) Glory to (NO) man. peace and love to you and yours……………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan is in the lake of fire in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 06 2009,18:59)Have you responded to my post in which I ask you to explain “familiar spirits”When evening had come, they brought to Him many who were demon-possessed. And He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were sick,Matthew 8:15-17 (in Context)What does demon possessed mean here and why is it “cast…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Law in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Irene………If covenant and Law are the same thing why have the two words then. A covenant is a agreement between two or more persons. A law is the (enforcement) of that covenant. You see they are (NOT) the same thing. Paul was addressing (LAW) and How it worked (BY WORKS) OF LAW, He was not addressing the ten commandments themself but how the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 06 2009,19:27)There are several differing opinions as to what or who the Holy Spirit is. Is it the third person of the “trinity,” a figure of speech, a “ghost,” a force or power? As with any Biblical doctrine, we must dig deep into Scripture to uncover the truth. A superficial reading will undoubtedly lead to a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 16 years, 10 months ago
To all………Spirit is Intellect there is Godly intellect, there is carnal intellect, but either of them are Spirits , when a man dies His thoughts Parish, and the Spirits (intellects) go back to him who gave it in the first place, Spirit (intellect) can be changed, unclean spirits can be caused to leave and clean Spirit can come into a person…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan is in the lake of fire in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 10 months ago
Jesus said…….> YOU (BEING) EVIL, Know how to give gifts to you childern, how much more will GOD give them the Spirit that ask. Jesus seem to think man (EXISTS) in a (EVIL STATE), I also agree with that , the devils and satans are evils in people and it is (not the flesh and Blood) of the person, no, it is the evil spirit in the man that is t…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Law in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Irene……….The issue here is Not the covenant, it is what is LAW, a LAW is (NOT) a Covenant , a covenant is a agreement, a law is Used for the enforcement of the agreement. Law works through the power to extract a penalty, for violating it. It is exactly the same as our present Law in our country, Our laws are not covenants the are laws and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Law in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
To All………God the FATHER, exercises His right to command His Childern , This is His right as creator and a FATHER. God's commandments are for our good not his good, because he is Love and keeps all his own ways of life. What is hard for me to understand is why would anyone think his commandments were some how bad and done away with, they a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Law in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Irene ……….Jesus telling us the first and greatest commandment to love GOD is exactly what the ten commandments say He did change it. As well as to love your neighbor as yourself , that is also in the ten commandments. Jesus also said to Keep the commandments and even listed some of them, and told us that whosoever does not keep the least…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Law in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Irene……….I am not talking about any (COVENANT) AT ALL, I am talking about the word (LAW) that has nothing to do with the word covenant. Your confusing them. They are (NOT) the SAME. Law is forced compliance , Covenant is a agreement between two or more people. Your mixing them together. The commandments are not the Covenant , the covenant is…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Law in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
To All the word Law is a very complex word indeed, but my basic understanding is when a governing authority passes a set of rules and gives enforcement of them over people. AS traffic Laws or for that matter any other Law, it is a statue that seem to require enforcement of some kind if it is a true (Law )In my opinion. If enforcement is not…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Law in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 04 2009,16:16)G, Where did you find this definition? In Websters or among your dogmas?Nick………if it is a dogmas then produce your dogmas but to criticize without any explanation, produces (NOTHING) so Produce you ideas of what you think the word LAW means then . After all this is what the thread is supposed to be…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Law in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 10 months ago
To All…………This post is about LAW, Lets start by getting some input on what is a LAW. I define it as an ENFORCED rule or regulation such as a statue (given power to be enforced on people). Simply put (Law) is forced compliance. Remember we are not talking about (THE) Law (as the ten commandments) but Just what is LAW itself any LAW any…[Read more]
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