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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The great apostasy in the forum Prophecy 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2010,04:50)hi georgto me the NOW is refert to the light still in the world this means the true christians ,apostels,and direct diciples thouth by the apostels.wen those died out there was no more restrain.Terraricca……..I agree with you on this, it was the apostles who was holding back the false teaching of the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
Nick………..Show me where my so called ideas are desperate from Jesus'. Post it don't just false accuse me . If you had the SPirit of God teaching you to understand scripture would be far better the Just Parroting it. IMO
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic For non trinitarians in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 8 months ago
thinker………I did not say Jesus did nothing, i said (He) said He could do (NOTHING) of HIMSELF. that is the point Here, you Trinitarians remove GOD the FATHER from that picture and replace Him with Jesus by himself. That is the POINT>
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The arian dissenters in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 09 2010,11:28)Quote (Gene @ Jan. 08 2010,19:17)WJ……John 1:1 has not mention of the word Jesus there, so who gave anyone the right to change it . That is altering and forcing the text, It make perfect sense to me just like it is. So who's Idea was it to change it to mean Jesus, was John so dense He could not have…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The arian dissenters in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
WJ……John 1:1 has not mention of the word Jesus there, so who gave anyone the right to change it . That is altering and forcing the text, It make perfect sense to me just like it is. So who's Idea was it to change it to mean Jesus, was John so dense He could not have written Jesus there if that is what he was trying to say. You see even simple…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
Nick…..Show scripture where it says (WE MUST) aspire to the mind of Christ, Where is God the FATHERS part in your picture. Again you exclude God in your planned Self salvation. He seem to have little or no part with you, Just your own Choices right? Good luck your going to need it. You are being saved by (YOUR) WORKS , not by the GRACE of GOD it…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
Nick……I am (NOT) saying the SPIRIT is the MIND, it is what is (IN) the mind, it's INTELLECT. That gives the mind reason and understanding. If our minds are being effect by GOD Spirit it's intellect is being Changes to Aline with GOD'S Thinking. The Spirit is the intellect that is (IN) the mind.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The arian dissenters in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 09 2010,09:53)Quote (Gene @ Jan. 09 2010,09:22)thinker……..When did i not say Jesus is not my Lord, there you go jumping off again, with out any proof of me saying such a thing, Jesus is Lord over all (TO THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER). I whole heartily believe that. Please don't take the word Lord and say that means He…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
David……..You said the spirit of God is not the mind of God right?, Phi 2:5 (Let) this (MIND) be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:Eph 4:23 And be renewed in the SPIRIT (intellect) of YOUR MIND2Ti 1:7 For God has not given us the Spirit (intellect) of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.Heb 8: 10 For this is the covenant…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
Nick………But you say the spirit is not intellect , so how can it remind of of anything. It has nothing to do with the intellect according to you right? The Spirit is the intellect of GOD being feed into our minds and it does control our thinking and it is the mind of GOD being put into us, by the SPIRIT of GOD, IMO.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin………..Please show when i have ever accused GOD of SINNING.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 8 months ago
Thinker ……..Simple Jesus is not GOD of GODS is he> He said GOD was GREATER the HIM. He said (NOT) my WILL be DONE but they WILL BE DONE, interesting Jesus understood the difference But you deluded Trinitarians can't seem to understand that. Dump the trinitarians garbage Thinker and start to GROW in the knowledge of GOD.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is salvation by us, or of God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
Nick…….quite changing the subject, either you agree or disagree with what chosenone Just posted. We know that you people can't stand that God can saves or harden whomsoever he chooses, it's something you don't believe, because you think your so-called (FREE WILL) salvation by (SELF) through the operation of fear, is how you are saved. Even…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 8 months ago
thinker……..You mean you don't know the difference , between a Master and lord and GOD, There are degrees of Masters and Lords , but there is (ONLY) (ONE) TRUE GOD. Thats the difference.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The arian dissenters in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
thinker……..When did i not say Jesus is not my Lord, there you go jumping off again, with out any proof of me saying such a thing, Jesus is Lord over all (TO THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER). I whole heartily believe that. Please don't take the word Lord and say that means He is a GOD thing again. Pure HOG WASH. King David Said “the LORD said unto…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 8 months ago
Thinker …….Please show anywhere that Jesus said He was Equal in Authority to GOD the FATHER. Scripture even say he will turnover His kingdom to the FATHER and Be subject to Him also. But if you look at the Present state of Jesus with the SEVEN SPIRITS of GOD (IN) Him connected with POWER, it is still GOD doing the works not Jesus alone. So…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The arian dissenters in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
Thinker…….What you and WJ need to do is print your own bibles and leave out the thousands of places that show there is (ONLY) ONE (TRUE) GOD. There are already place where your 600 hundred scholar have altered the text and omitted sentences and add others, so you and WJ can continue that process and create your own TRINITARIAN BIBLES. IMO
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The arian dissenters in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
Thinker , Jesus is my brother who OUR (His and MINE) FATHER placed over our Family, as representing the FATHER, But to say He is the FATHER or A GOD, is to deny His own words, I again repeat them for your and WJ'S benefit, JESUS SAID IN (PRAYER) “FOR (THOU) ART THE (ONLY) TRUE GOD. and GOD the FATHER said “YOU SHALL HAVE (NO) OTHER GOD BESIDES…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 8 months ago
Thinker……..but that authority is limited , it excludes authority over GOD the FATHER, as 1 cor says. Your constant struggle to try to make Jesus A GOD is Idolatry and is the LIE Spoken of in 2Ths2….very dangerous to yourself and anyone else to . IMO
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is salvation by us, or of God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 09 2010,07:07) Thanks for your reply. This verse you quote is the key to understanding those scriptures:- “Eph 4:18 They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts”. Being “darkened”, and “hardening of their hea…[Read more]
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