Terraricca……… So what your point? No where did i say who is saved or not saved. Look i am (NOT) GOD I do not make that judgement call on NO ONE T.

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 23 2010,05:23)It is YOUR teaching that is idolatrous because you “worship” God the old covenant way. God has commanded that we worship Him through His Son in the new covenant. According to Jesus this means that the Son is to be honored EVEN AS the Father is honored. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 23 2010,05:23)Quote (Gene @ Jan. 23 2010,05:19)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2010,04:45)Quote (Gene @ Jan. 22 2010,12:25)WJ………Brother you are so wrong, Jodi has explained it perfectly right. You and thnker are both committing IDOLATRY by trying to make Jesus into Very GOD.  What Jesus does and did is and will…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2010,08:33)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2010,16:24)WJyou should be happy you guys have 3 saviors in 1.My view is not contradictory to scriptures!God is a “Plural Unity”…And God said, Let us make man “in our image“, after “our likeness“…:So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him;…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2010,04:45)Quote (Gene @ Jan. 22 2010,12:25)WJ………Brother you are so wrong, Jodi has explained it perfectly right. You and thnker are both committing IDOLATRY by trying to make Jesus into Very GOD.  What Jesus does and did is and will always be to the GLORY of THE FATHER,  Who is the ONE and ONLY TRUE G…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 23 2010,04:33)Quote (Gene @ Jan. 23 2010,04:25)WJ………Brother you are so wrong, Jodi has explained it perfectly right. You and thnker are both committing IDOLATRY by trying to make Jesus into Very GOD.  What Jesus does and did is and will always be to the GLORY of THE FATHER,  Who is the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD.WJ if y…[Read more]

thinker…….I doubt if anyone here is more confused as you, on this Subject. Your squirrelly images only are refelcting how your own mind works, because you can't prove Jodi or any other NON TRINITARIANS intelligently wrong, so you revert to stupid images that are produced by the real spirit within you. IMO

WJ………Brother you are so wrong, Jodi has explained it perfectly right. You and thnker are both committing IDOLATRY by trying to make Jesus into Very GOD. What Jesus does and did is and will always be to the GLORY of THE FATHER, Who is the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD.WJ if you harden your heart to these truths it will have a dire consequence to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 20 2010,10:28)You are correct that Deuteronomy 6:4 proves there is only one God.   We all know that if you have one of an item you do not have 3 of that same item.  For example you cannot have 1 apple at the same time you have 3 apples.  You either have 1 apple or 3 apples.  The Trinitarians attempt to prove that you can hav…[Read more]

terraricca………..I believe it is you who do not want to see the truth and therefore remain in the dark. Pride can do much harm. To Think you have it all and what others say means they are in the dark if they don't line with what you say is nothing but Pride talking and nothing more. Truth is supposed to be the issue here and you have produce…[Read more]

To All…………Jesus said if thy eye offend (prevent) you pluck it out and cast it from you for better to go into the kingdom with one eye then to have two and be cast into the fire where the worm does not die and so the fire is not quenched. He went on with the hand and the leg and said the same thing. Lets look closely at what Jesus said, He…[Read more]

Kerwin and Terraricca……………there is (NO) such thing as a FREE WILL, NONE exists. We are (CAUSED) by the operation of GOD'S (GRACE) to Chose the way of Salvation. “Where sin did abound (GRACE) did Much MORE Abound”> We are (CREATED) unto good works, Trying to glorify Man by his so-called (free will) is only PRIDE and self righteousness.…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 21 2010,11:27)terraricca.   Lets reverse your reasoning, “If mankind could 'choose' salvation with his 'free wiil', then why would Jesus have to die?” Blessings.That is easy to answer.  Jesus provided the way for without the way you cannot choose to follow the way.On the other hand terrraricca has a good question since if o…[Read more]

Wm………we need scripture support for what you are saying, we all can put forth logic stories from our reasoning and that is not altogether wrong we are to us the minds GOD has given us. But we do need Scripture support too. brother. I believe your statement that fire consumes all is not scripturally supported, Fire in scripture is uses to…[Read more]

Kerwin……..A “FREE WILL offering is a offering from the self, the words “FREE WILL” is Not the subject of those words, it's just a offering free of any requirements of the law. NO where in scripture is the subject of “FREE WILLS” ever addressed, because it doesn't exist. there are (NO) FREE WILLS or there would be (no) WILLS at all. A Will…[Read more]

Terraricca……..So says St Augustine, CS Lewis and others, but scripture does not say that . There is (ONLY) ONE WILL that will exist and that is (NO) Mans WILL , but GODS ONLY that will Be done. Even His WILL is (NOT) a “FREE WILL” the very word WILL shows that there is INFLUENCING at Work. God Council is what influences His WILL to , Just…[Read more]

Kerwin……..the whole point here is that there is (NO) Such thing as a so-called “FREE WILL” . That is a oxymoron A WILL is the result of (INFLUENCES) and that is (NOT) FREE. GOD'S WILL is the result of INFLUENCES ALSO. “FOR GOD DOES AL THINGS AFTER THE (COUNCIL) OF HIS OWN WILL. You see GOD'S WILL is a RESULT of COUNSEL, There are seven…[Read more]

JA……….There is no such thing as a “FREE WILL” that is a oxymoron. Man likes to think he has a free will but nothing can further from the truth. Even GOD does not have a “FREE WILL:, For he does (ALL) things after the (COUNCIL) of His OWN WILL, We also do all things after the (COUNCIL) of Our WILL these (CAUSE) Us to ACT in LIFE, they are…[Read more]

Kerwin………Jesus said, if YOU BEING (EVIL) knowhow to give gifts to your childern how much more will God give them the spirit that ask. and again, “God looked for (ONE) righteous man and found (NONE) therefor he took it upon his own arm to bring salvation. and again “whosoever calls on the name of the LORD (SHALL) be saved”, and again “GOD is…[Read more]

Terraricca……….The question here is (NOT) that we have WILLS< But are they So-called, "FREE WILLS" that is the question , but now you have tried to made it a question of do we have WILLS, no one is denying that we have Wills, what we are talking about is it a "FREE WILL" that is a Will totally (FREE) of (ANY) INFLUENCING OF ANY KIND< NO SUCH…[Read more]