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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
Kerwin ……….None of what you posted is referencing anything about us having “FREE WILLS” Ezra 7:13, simply means of Himself decides to do it. I ask for scriptures that talk about Us having “FREE WILL” there are none. Man want to believe He Does, but (ALL) WILLS are INFLUENCED WILLS, YOU DO what has the greatest influence in your life no…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 7 months ago
JA…….Also the voice that said destory this temple and in three days (I) shall raise it up , was GOD the Father speaking (first person) through Jesus' mouth. GOD considers us (TEMPLES) in which he can and does (INDWELL). Jesus had the fullness of GOD the FATHERS Spirit (IN) HIM. The Spirit can take over and Speak through people direct at times.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
Irene……..You might think your so-called “free will” was the source of you leaving the Catholic Church , and to do good and etc, but nothing could be further from the truth. It was what was (INFLUENCING) the MOST at the time that (CAUSED you to make those decisions. Nothing (FREE) about it. A will cant not (EXIST) without (INFLUENCE) AT Work.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
Irene ……All i ask is show me in scripture where is says GOD gave anyone “FREE WILL” Even when Eve ate of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil She was (INFLUENCED) to do it. Irene there does (NOT) Exist (ANY) “FREE” WILLS, not even GOD'S WILL is “FREE”. of (INFLUENCE) “for god does (ALL) things after the (COUNCIL) of His WILL, if His…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
terraricca…….I realize you can't, but the question was directed a Kerwin not you. so i would appreciate if you would let Kerwin answer for himself.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
Kerwin………You are misunderstanding me. Accountability is indeed a personal accountability. Rather it be GOD or Man, What has that to do with the subject of “FREE” WILLS, if your trying to relate to it. The definition Accountability does (NOT) imply a “FREE” anything it simply shows we are held accountable for our actions. The subject of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 16 years, 7 months ago
ED J………..Sorry i did not realize it was a question you were after, So I will ask you one , what is you understanding of the SEVEN SPIRITS of GOD then?
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 16 years, 7 months ago
ED J…….not sure what you are taking about but i will assume it is about the Seven Fold Nature of GOD. I believe GOD is a Uni-Plural word. God is represented by (SEVEN) DISTINCT SPIRITS as (ONE GOD). These Spirits are before The LORD (YHWH)'s Throne they are distinct Intellects or Spirits, and these seven Spirits Intellects are coupled with…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
Kerwin……We are all accountable to GOD the Whole creation is His. Being accountable to GOD< has nothing to do with a so-called "FREE WILL" our Wills are accountable to GOD but not because they are "FREE WILLS" because no "FREE WILL" exists, It is because they are (INFLUENCED) WILLS and that influenced is what is accountable.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Hellenistic origins of christianity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
Adam………You are taking it from a Jewish perspective, they reject Jesus as the anointed of GOD completely. Naturally they would say the text is not properly translated. But Herod and Others at the time of Jesus knew that the time was at hand for him to appear. The Jews also say they do not understand Daniel because it was written in Aramaic…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
Adam………Lets talk about the “END OF DAYS” OR “LATTER DAYS”, a little. So when does the end of days or Latter days begin. You and the Jews are under the ideology that this means at the very end like in our time or a future date, right? But this is a misconception of the term “END OF DAYS” or “LATTER DAYS' let me explain, if i were to tell you…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Hellenistic origins of christianity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
Adam……Include in your inquires the (SEVENTY WEEK) PROPHESY OF DANIEL, It shows the exact time of the Messiah berth. IMOpeace and love to you and yours…………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
Adam………Make a study of the SEVENTY WEEK PROPHESY written by DANIEL. It will confirm Jesus as the Messiah, not matter what the JEWS say. Don't let some little misunderstanding in scripture trip you up. Jesus is the Messiah brother. Zec 12:9…> And I will pour upon the house of DAVID< and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Hellenistic origins of christianity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
Adam……….Make a study of the Seventy week Prophesy given by Danial that Should clarify how and when the “MESSIAH” Should come, all the Jews Knew the time of His coming including their leaders as well a the High Priests and Pharisees. They were the one who cast out the Son of the Owner of the vineyard and Killed Him. Be careful not to by…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 16 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2010,19:58)Quote (Gene @ Jan. 20 2010,18:19)ED J………To tell you the truth i don't really follow your numbering system, I try to just go by what is written in the scriptures, and it says there (ARE) SEVEN SPIRITS of GOD, I believe SPIRITS are (INTELLECTS) and they are expressed by WORDS, and we can recieve them into o…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
Terraricca……… Again your adding your thoughts to the text. Jesus (PLAINLY) said “(NO) MAN (CAN) COME UNTO ME, UNLESS THE FATHER DRAW HIM”> There is no need to twist that by trying to make it come out the way you want it to. We have enough of that going on here already. IMO
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The arian dissenters in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 23 2010,14:30)The Father Himself tells us how to worship Him in spirit. We worship Him in spirit by worshiping JESUS!Thinker ……..Interesting you say that but where did Jesus say we are worshiping GOD the FATHER by worshiping HIM. Is that another addition to our scriptures that you trinitarians fell free to twist the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
Terraraccia, that is not the question if some Seek or not, the question is are those who seek using their (OWN) So called “FREE WILL” or is GOD Causing it by (DRAWING) them to Christ. Why don't you just deal with the quoted Scripture instead of trying to make up your own So Called “FREE WILL” salvation dogmas. Here something else why did Jesus…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
Terriaccia……….Right and the only ones who do, are the ONES He has Opened up their minds to understand the truth, not everyone has the truth in them or they all would chose to follow Jesus. Jesus PLAINLY SAID ” (NO) MAN (CAN) COME UNTO ME EXCEPT THE FATHER DRAW (DRAG) HIM”. SO MUCH FOR YOU “FREE WILL” DOGMAS. Trying to glorify the self by…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The jewish messiah in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 7 months ago
Adam…..You asked Why did the majority of the First Century Jews reject Jesus . That is because they were looking for the Messiah to set up the Kingdom of Israel again, which he will do when he comes again. But Scripture plainly says He came to His OWN and they recieved HIM NOT> Why do you think GOD Cast the out of their Land if they were right…[Read more]
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