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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 5 months ago
Mikeboll……….I understand what you are saying and you are right to a point, we do have WILLS Separate from GOD'S But they as well as GOD'S Will is NOT (FREE) at all but are captivated Wills. “GOD DOES (ALL) THING AFTER THE (COUNSEL) OF HIS WILL, His Will is not a free on like a lose canon, but a counseled Will . So do we, we do what we do by…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Imperfect church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 5 months ago
Kerwin………> both you and Mikeangel are wrong , The ROCK Jesus mentioned there is GOD the FATHER who has the POWER to OPEN up the Mind of Man and cause Him to understand the Truth and that is the (POWER) that Builds the Church. It was not Jesus or Peter that was the ROCK Mentioned there, But GOD ALONE> “Peter who do you say i am , Peter…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 16 years, 5 months ago
Nick…………O really, then why don't you believe what is written then? You are not of the word or you would believe what it says instead of giving a pretense of believing it. IMO as well as others
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the word of god the holy spirit? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Nick………..Why twist up what i said . Where did i say we are born with the Spirit of truth at berth? However a child is certainly far more truthful then most adults are. And Where did i say Knowledge is the GREAT aim in Life? While we are certinly told to grow in GRACE and KNOWLEDGE. Now you say we inherit the knowledge of good and evil from…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 5 months ago
Mikeboll………you are right in the sense that we can exercise our (Wills) Freely to a point. But my point is that those will we excercise freely are not in themselves “FREE” WILLS We are drive to WILL what we WILL and what drive us is our thoughts and were are held captive by them and Must be set FREE from the Captivated Thoughts. Christ can…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the word of god the holy spirit? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Nick………..No matter how much volume a vessel can hold it must be filled, We are born with this capacity but it is no good to us unless it is filled with Knowledge . Childern are born with the ability to learn at berth and as there bodies grow so does there Knowledge and understanding grow. Unless they are mentally hampered through some…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic 1 corinthians 15:50 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Nick……….Flesh and Blood by it self can not inherit the kingdom of GOD, But Flesh plus Spirit in it can, Our Souls can inherit the kingdom of GOD, Nothing Physical inherits anything it self. Why do you thinks it says fear Him who can destory (BOTH) (two things) In the GRAVE. The body, and spirit separated from it. Equals a destroyed being or…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the word of god the holy spirit? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2010,09:00)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 14 2010,05:52)Mikeboll………NO it is NOT, we have LIBERTY in this nation to do what we desire as long as it is not against our laws. If i say to my grand sons you can do what ever you WILL to do inside the back yard , they can, because i have given them (liberty) to, but as to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the word of god the holy spirit? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Nick………If GOD is not the source of those Spirits then where did they come from. Did they just appear on there own out of nowhere. As i said you do not understand what Spirit (IS) Yet , it (IS) the life source (IN) the Being His intellects which enlightens him and is given from ONLY ONE GOD. This is the creating source of all life. God is…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Will all men be saved? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Terraricca……….But you believe (YOUR) OWN So called “FREE” WILL determines what GOD will do right. So you are the one in control not GOD unless you give him permission to at least your Mind anyway. All that you have quoted above does Not in (ANYWAY) contradicts What Chosenone has said in fact it supports His conclusions. Skirting around…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic 1 corinthians 15:50 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Nick…….I certainly do believe in a New and imperishable (BODY). I just do not believe we will has a Spirit without a body, that is what you believe, it appears. Jesus plainly said his resurrected Body was (NOT) a SPIRIT. Because a Spirit does not have Flesh and BONES. That is not to say the Spirit was Not (IN) that Body He had. Your and many…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the word of god the holy spirit? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Nick………We all share spirit from GOD it was GOD who put the spirit (IN) Man starting with ADAM; and He enlightens all men who come into the world . Why do you think the spirit goes back to him who gave it when we die. You mixing up (holy spirit) with the spirit God gave man. We were not given the (FULLNESS) of GODS Spirit, But recieve it…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the word of god the holy spirit? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Nick……….YOUR talking about two different things (GOD'S HOLLY (set apart) SPIRIT) and the SPIRIT in MAN. Think about this.”In Him (GOD) was LIFE; and the LIFE was the LIGHT of MEN”. Nick this light is the intellect in Man. If you understood that (ALL) life Has INTELLECT of SOME KIND IN IT. Rather it is a one celled animal or a man it makes…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic 1 corinthians 15:50 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Nick………What bible are you reading , If you think Jesus is not included in the resurrection of the DEAD, you are sadly mistaking my friend. Jesus is our exact same HOPE WE HAVE, in the EXACT same Manor. The only difference is His (BODY) did not corrupt or decay because he did not sin and the only his body died in the first place is because He…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the word of god the holy spirit? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Terraricca…………Good advice only apply it to yourself first. IMO
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the word of god the holy spirit? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Mikeboll………NO it is NOT, we have LIBERTY in this nation to do what we desire as long as it is not against our laws. If i say to my grand sons you can do what ever you WILL to do inside the back yard , they can, because i have given them (liberty) to, but as to what they (WILL) to do is a whole different subject. Because they will do what…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the word of god the holy spirit? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Terraricca……….That is exactly what your are doing or you would not have made that statement. Think about it.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the word of god the holy spirit? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Mikeboll………..That is exactly what most think , But scripture does not support that, The spirit in man is simply His intellect , and it is capable of receiving all kinds of thoughts (spirits) rather clean or unclean, pure or impure right or wrong, we are receptors and recieve spirits (intellects) into us. John said “For (all) that is in…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic 1 corinthians 15:50 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 13 2010,16:11)Hi Jodi, The spirit of God is not is the minds of carnal men.Only those reborn of God's Spirit, like Jesus, can be renewed in this way.The flesh of men has no long term future beyond the grave where it naturally corrupts.Mortal Flesh cannot inherit the kingdom.Nick……….Your lack of understanding is…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic 1 corinthians 15:50 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 5 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 13 2010,21:25)Terraricca,While I laid their a scripture came to me from God that may help you understand the point he has made so clear to me.1 Corinthians 15:39(NIV) reads:Quote All flesh is not the same: Men have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another.The flesh that is sown in the ground is…[Read more]
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