Nick……….I now that, but water baptism and Circumcision are also, outward sign and Do not change anyone inside the hearts and minds.Surely Nick you must understand this by now. There is only (ONE) Baptism that counts and that is the Baptism of the CHRISTOS, or SPIRIT. Cleansing with water was a requirement of the LAW for the CARNAL MINDED>…[Read more]

Kerwin…….Your adding another type of scenario into what i have said is exactly what i was talking about, by not seeing my point it is just a diversion from what i was saying. Look let me give you another example a personal experience . Once I was a Electrican in a Large Plant and studing in clooedge to become an electrical Engineer , I…[Read more]

Nick………Are you beginning to see Water Baptism does nothing for cleansing us. No more then Circumcision has any effect on our being right with GOD, both are just outward signs. Water baptism is just a outward admission of our acceptance of the Blood of Christ paying for our sins and is just a sign only. It is the Baptism of the SPIRIT and…[Read more]

To All……All who GOD concludes to be saved (WILL) be SAVED, “FOR GOD CONCLUDED (ALL) UNDER SIN, THAT HE MIGHT HAVE MERCY ON (ALL)”. Why treat that scripture without respect. And while you at it , here is another to think about,…> FOR GO IS (NOT) WILLING THAT ANY PARISH , BUT THAT ALL COME TO REPENTANCE. Many here seem willing that many…[Read more]

LU………It appears you are right I believe history does show at the time of Christ they spoke mostly Aramaic and Greek , Here is something interesting , Remember when Jesus said ” It is harder for a rich man to go through the eye of a needle than for a Camel to go through the eye of a needle. The word uses there for camel in Aramaic is ROPE,…[Read more]

Georg……….Remission, is another subject that has some different understandings. Like this, Say you have cancer and it went in to remission that does not mean you still do not have cancer but that it is in a remission state or not active but still present. And i think this is what is implied here we still have sin as long as we are in these…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 22 2010,04:53)Gene Balthrop wrote:Quote Tell me this you who Love FEAR Religion………Would you like a Surgeon to operate on you with His mind fearful and operating with trembling hands, or would you like an Confident Surgeon who Knows what he is doing and Has confidence and FAITH he can perform the operation…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 23 2010,01:15)Quote (Elizabeth @ April 22 2010,19:23)We can never be righteous by our self; when we except Jesus as our Lord and savior, his blood will cleanse us from all “unrighteousness”, and the white rope he will clothe us in is “HIS” righteousness.Georggeorgyou right wen you we never can become righteous or without…[Read more]

Quote (Elizabeth @ April 22 2010,19:23)We can never be righteous by our self; when we except Jesus as our Lord and savior, his blood will cleanse us from all “unrighteousness”, and the white rope he will clothe us in is “HIS” righteousness.GeorgGeorg………You have it right, Fear has nothing to do with it But FAITH working through LOVE. Amen…[Read more]

Kerwin…….Your faith seems to be based on Paranoia, a fear based religion is not based on the LOVE of GOD ” For NOTHING is PERFECTED IN FEAR”. You Profess GOD but seem to deny His POWER to Change US to conform to His WILL. I have posted specific Scriptures that deal with the Ideology of fear religion . But you still fail to Deal with them ,…[Read more]

Nick……..Tell me do (YOU) Repent on your own, of Does GOD GIVE US a REPENTANT Heart. Consider in Acts when the Spirit was poured out on people, did those people repent by themselves or was it when the Spirit of GOD was poured out upon them. Before the out pouring of GOD Spirit they were saying to crucify Jesus , but after the Spirit was poured…[Read more]

Quote (princess of the king @ April 21 2010,14:34)Quote 2 Ti 1:7 ….> For God hath not given us the Spirit of fear; but of power , and of love. and of a sound mine.Hey Gene, I take this passage for what we live everyday in this world. Do not fear man, what harm can he do, love one another,  knowing truth when it is spoken. I do not apply this to…[Read more]

Kerwin……….Wrong again the demons it says fear and tremble , do you also fear and tremble. So have your recieved a Spirit of FEAR and Trembling if so then what i Quoted out of  2Ti 1:7 seems not to apply to your seeing you have such great fear of God. Why have you not addressed the scriptures I quoted are they not also in you bible. Here is…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 20 2010,16:20)Gene,I read the rest of your post and it seems to me you fail to understand that fearing God and loving him are part and parcel of serving the Lord.  Perhaps if you mediate on Deuteronomy 6 and ask God to grant you understanding it will make you more knowledgeable.Kerwin………I have not recieved a Spirit of…[Read more]

Terraricca………You have that right Nick does not understand that, he thinks WATER BAPTISM is what save us. He fails to understand that John the Baptize said “I indeed Baptize with WATER , (BUT) he who comes after me will baptize with Spirit and Fire”. Here it shows a difference in the Baptisms One of Spirit and One of Water. Now Notice, when…[Read more]

Kerwin ………you still have not answered my question So to me being under something means it is what is controlling you, how ever you may have a different meaning. Pleas answer the question what does it mean to be (UNDER) The LAW.You say if a person obeys the Law (COMPLETELY) tell us do you, obey it (COMPLETELY)? What does this mean to you “For…[Read more]

Terricca………Nick is right in what he is saying except for the water thing , It is when we recieve The HOLY SPIRIT of GOD given from GOD through Jesus Christ sacrifice for our sins, that a change begins to take place in our hearts and minds, and we also recieve with that the Fiery Judgements needed also to cleans and purify us. Remember where…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 19 2010,15:25)Quote (Ed J @ April 19 2010,12:11)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 19 2010,02:34)Kerwin………When are you going to come out from under the works of the LAW (Law (IS) a force that causes compliance). peace and love…………..geneHi Gene,Are we to believe you now believe in “Free Will” by your current…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 19 2010,12:11)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 19 2010,02:34)Kerwin………When are you going to come out from under the works of the LAW (Law (IS) a force that causes compliance). peace and love…………..geneHi Gene,Are we to believe you now believe in “Free Will” by your current words?God blessEd J http://www.holycitybiblecod…[Read more]

Kewin…….> You say Law is not a force that causes compliance, the Law is only Law (IF) it can extract a Penalty. Scripture say “the law is for the Ungodly and sinner”. Have you forgotten that and it also say we are (NOT) (UNDER) the (WORKS) of the Law. “For no man shall be justified by (WORKS) of LAW. Now with that understanding (if you need i…[Read more]