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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 18 2010,19:07)So your saying that God is so powerful that he couldnt convince us to love him back, so he already chosen a portion of humanity and forces them to love him?So your saying God isnt powerful enough to convince people to love him back.SF………..No that is what “FREE WILLER'S are saying they think it must…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 2 months ago

    T8……..”can a Ethiopian change his Skin or a Leopard His spots”, why did Christ come to set the captives Free if they were already free to change by their so-called Free Will. Trying to throw humor at this as if were senseless in foolish on your Part, and is what all who can not defend their positions do, they can't Logically explain their…[Read more]

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    Isa 1:18………What about all the scriptures David Posted, does that not mean anything Isa 1:18, And what about where God the FATHER said we are to not have any other GOD besides HIM ALONE , and He even said he looked and could not find any other GOD beside HIM. And where Jesus said “FOR THOU (someone other then himself) ART THE ONLY (means no…[Read more]

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    Nick……….Brother, some times you seem to use words to positions yourself over people, rather then reason with then to express your beliefs and thoughts on subjects, anyone can say you must be born again, or do you know the lord Jesus Christ and so on, what you fail to understand i believe is that we (ALL) already Know that every bit as much…[Read more]

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    To All…………..God is composed of seven destinct Spirits (intellects) these are the eyes of GOD they compose His perceptions and Jesus now has the seven eyes or Spirits On HIM with seven horns (powers) as shown in revelation> He will rule the earth and set up the kingdom of God with them, therefore it is said Thy Kingdom O God is an…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ June 17 2010,16:23)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 08 2010,01:41)To ALL…….The basic Problem here is Most do not even know what SPIRIT IS. So we get all these speculations and confusions about it. SPIRIT is in SIMPLEST TERMS (INTELLECT) and there are Many. There is clean and unclean spirits (intellects) there are Evil and Good Spirits…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2010,23:33)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 16 2010,16:33)ED J……….God has (FULL) responsibility  of (ALL) things, and allows what he allows and prevents what He Choses to Prevent.  If you were not a “FREE” WILLER'S You could understand these things , But all “FREE WILLER'S” are a GOD unto themselves so they believe (THEY) A…[Read more]

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    There is truly much confusion on who was doing the work, was it Jesus or GOD, It was GOD even speaking (through) Jesus, Jesus said the words he spoke were (NOT) HIS words. This mis-focusing is and act of Idolatry. It pictures Jesus the man as GOD himself, Jesus said if he glorified himself His glory was nothing, and also said “I HAVE GLORIFIED…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 18 2010,14:23)Hi, A major confusion source in scripture is attributing the work of the Spirit of Christ to the man Jesus.NIck……….That is a true statement. Making Jesus the focus of His work is an error , It was GOD through the Holy Spirit doing the works , “the son of man can do (nothing ) of HIMSELF”, Jesus never…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (JustAskin @ June 18 2010,06:49)All,”SON OF MAN” simply means “Born in the flesh” a human Being, one of Man. Nothing freaky or deep or mysterious about it.Jesus refered to himself as “Son of Man” to indicate his Earthly Being. He knew where he came from and was making the distinction but it would not have made any sense to his listenere who…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (JustAskin @ June 18 2010,06:49)All,”SON OF MAN” simply means “Born in the flesh” a human Being, one of Man. Nothing freaky or deep or mysterious about it.Jesus refered to himself as “Son of Man” to indicate his Earthly Being. He knew where he came from and was making the distinction but it would not have made any sense to his listenere who…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 2 months ago

    T8………You have not answered this , Why did Jesus come to set the captives “FREE” if they already were FREE. What is you thoughts on this. peace and love…………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 2 months ago

    T8 ……….Ask a dope addict if that is true of not, no matter how hard they try they are unable to deliever themselves , not matte rhow much they hate being addicted. I personally know this for a (FACT) not that i ever was a dope additic, but i certanilt had a nicotine habit and for a year it tride every thing i could to quits , it was my will…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ June 18 2010,10:34)Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 18 2010,02:32)Does the fact that people make choices based on REASONS mean anything? If there was total freedom in a choice then there would not be a reason to that choice would there be?Jodi, we can choose freely between the options that are presented to us. e.g., do I follow the urgings of…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 2 months ago

    JA……….You keep going back to the idea we can Make a Choice “FREELY” and you are reckoning that Choice is therefore a “FREE” Choice. Fact is (NO) Choice is ever “FREE” Because ( Your uses Logic and information drawn from Past (EXPERIENCES) and these make you decision for you. WE have (captivated) WILLS, not “FREE” Wills (IN) US. don't mix up…[Read more]

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    JK……..Jesus did destory the strong hold of Satan (an adversarial Intellect) that resides in the heart of Man, by the Spirit of GOD, this adversarial spirit was also in Him, He put it to death by the Power of GOD , so he did destory satans domain and it was in Him as in all men , so from that stand point satans kingdom or domain was destroyed…[Read more]

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    Quote (gollamudi @ June 16 2010,22:05)Jewish views on G-d:An angel is an angel, G-d is G-d, Man is ManG-d has no formG-d is not a man. Missionaries say that the “son” aspect of their tri-partite god was the person Jesus. (Sometimes they even seem to say the other two aspects were also human, but that's another story.) They emphasize that they bel…[Read more]

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    Chosenone…….That is what “FREE” WILLER'S do, they can not except salvation outside of themselves, so they can not truly except those scriptures we quote, they are a God unto themselves . and Pride has grasped their minds. IMOBut as you quoted, in 1 Tim 4:10, we are to continue even if we are reproached for doing it, to rely on GOD the (ONLY)…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 2 months ago

    Terraricca…………Was not it a thought in Ananis's (mind) that caused him to sin against the Holy Spirit. That was not another person or being , but his own thoughts his (OWN) reasoning that cause this to happen. If it were someone else doing it in him , why kill him them, after all it would not have been his fault right? Kill the one doing…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 2 months ago

    Adam…………Amen to that brother. They have created another God by turning him into a real (BEING) a metaphysical idol. Taught by MYSTERY RELIGION Just another Idolatrous teaching from the apostate Churches.IMOpeace and love to you and yours…………………..gene

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