Quote (RokkaMan @ June 01 2010,08:12)Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 01 2010,08:03)I think it might be good to first PROVE, through scripture, who this Satan of which you all keep referring to IS!Then DEFINE the “heaven” of which you believe he fell from!Then tell us WHEN it was he fell and WHY he fell!Good point….I actually got off the phone with Simple…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 24 2010,14:51)You want me to speculate, but I cannot.  Where does the scripture state that the devil was an anointed cherub or that he was perfect in beauty or any of this that you are trying to attribute to him?I have also heard that the devil was an angel in the heavenly choir, but that isn't in the bible, maybe in the…[Read more]

Quote (david @ June 24 2010,18:08)God is holyGod is a spirit.Therefore, God is the holy spiritAngels are holy (Deuteronomy 33:2; Jude 14) Angels are spirits Therefore, angels are holy spiritsIf the same logic leads to a false conclusion, is the logic sound?David……..The difference here is Angles are (NOT) Spirits, they have Spirit in them, God…[Read more]

To All…………Jesus ask Peter who do you say i am, peter responded , you are the Christ the son of the Living God, Jesus said back, blessed are you Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood has not revealed that unto you (Jesus was flesh and blood) But my Father who is in Heave Has revealed it unto you, and i say unto you, you are Peter (Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (barley @ June 24 2010,05:55)Quote (Tim2 @ April 26 2007,14:32)Hi Cubes,Please read the ecumenical creeds and the Definition of Chalcedon.  You'll see there that Christians believe Jesus is man as well as God.  Therefore, because He is man, He can serve as prophet, priest and king.  That is why He is compared to Melchizedek.Thank you for sh…[Read more]

barly……….Amen brother the word of GOD is (NOT) Flesh, it came to be (IN) Flesh and Blood Humans. And it was 100 % (IN) Jesus our brother and Lord. Good post brother.peace and love to you and yours…………………gene

Quote (barley @ June 24 2010,00:49)Quote (Tim2 @ April 12 2007,08:59)1.  Matthew 28:19.2.  John 1:13.  FalseJesus is the wisdom and power of God.  1 Corinthians 1:24.There is nothing wrong with a true inference.  The Bible was written to be understood.  That its truth can be restated using other words is evident from the New Testament quota…[Read more]

WJ………Why can't you and Jumping Jack, quit jumping all around the place and Just answer the (EXACT) scriptures Posted, instead of diverting here and there trying to run form the questions put to you. Mike has ask some straight forward question and you and Jumping Jack come back in all flurry to try to divert the main points being discussed.…[Read more]

TK………..Well put brother.Peace and love to you and yours………………….gene

Quote (JustAskin @ June 23 2010,16:00)Gene,Then you quote out of context.JA………How is it I quoted Out of context. Not following you brother. No Scripture say we are born sinners that i know of, I know were are born with a Propensity to sin though. I still believe John was right in what he said. We are born into a sinful world and it rubs off…[Read more]

TK…………..Good food for thought brother. Empowering another being as in control of Peoples minds ofter then GOD is only Idolatry. The only devils are the people themselves by their own lustful desires and prides, trying to blame it on some other Satan God creature is pure false teachings, it cause people to blame to someone else as the cause…[Read more]

Mike………..You can't corner a snake in a bier patch. peace and love to you and yours……………….gene

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 23 2010,08:05)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 23 2010,01:52)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 22 2010,05:46)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2010,19:11)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 21 2010,16:47)Wait so your stating that Jesus believed that God other then himself is the True God,SF……….Who say that, Me or Jesus. You are…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ June 23 2010,09:35)Gene,Since  everyone is born neither good nor evil (you choose two excitable words, I see) and acquire our 'sin' through what the 'lust' that in the world, do you think then that we could 'grow' a sinless person by keeping him 'from the world' from new born baby through to adulthood.I know, make him deaf,…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 22 2010,05:46)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2010,19:11)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 21 2010,16:47)Wait so your stating that Jesus believed that God other then himself is the True God,SF……….Who say that, Me or Jesus. You are evading my question Lets not believe you or Me OK, let believe what Jesus HIMSELF Said >…[Read more]

barley……..Welcome to the site…………..remember, we chose as a result of Faith, as you say, however that faith is a gift of GOD and that causes us to Chose . It says “Unto each has been (Given) a measure of faith”. And also remember Jesus said (NO) Man (CAN) come unto me unless the Father (draw) Him. No one will chose Gods way by his own…[Read more]

SF………..Good lets determine what is a “FREE” WILL………..First of all if we are going to use the word “FREE” we need to understand what Free means correct?… To Me it means unrestricted, uninfluenced , unaltered, in (anyway) unforced, But according to T8 and you we are being influenced , we do have desires, and there are constraints,…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ June 22 2010,20:18)Hi all,I know this has been gone over endlessly but I havent followed any of those discussions.I realise there is only one God Almighty,  Obviously Thomas, Ignatius, and so on knew there was Almighty God the Father AND Jesus, but what I really want to know is, do any of you non Trinitarians use the title God…[Read more]

To All………..First we need to establish what a (IMAGE) is. From what i have read it is a (reflection of something) Like when one looks into a Mirror and see His reflection , that is not Him (IN) the mirror but a reflection. This whole thing ties into understanding what (SPIRIT) really IS. Spirit is NOT a Physical thing, it is (THOUGHT) AND…[Read more]

Quote (RokkaMan @ June 21 2010,08:59)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 21 2010,08:27)Hi, In another thread RM said man does not have a spirit.I never said man doesn't have a spirit.Re-read what I said.I said man's spirit comes from God.Nick………Why do you seek to character assassinate people, what spirit (intellect) is driving you? Deal with the…[Read more]