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    MIke………Your mixing up Spiritual thing with Physical things, GOD is Spirit not physical He call thing before they ever exist and brings them about in His creation. Jesus was called out from the Beginning as a (seed of the women) who would bruise the head of the serpent, but his did not exist till he was born here on earth. This was God…[Read more]

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    WJ……….You properly do not believe Cyrus was from above either , or Jeremiah, of John the Baptist and on and on it goes, You probably don't believe GOD foreordained any of Us do you. But that is they way Trinitarians an Preexistences believe. Tell us what this means “FOR WHOM HE (foreknew) HE PREDESTINED TO BE CONFORMED UNTO THE IMAGE OF…[Read more]

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    Mike………..Not sure if you fully understand it, But we also could say we are to ascend up to where we were before , are we not all in the plan and will of GOD? is not GOD (IN) heaven ? Are we no seated with Christ in the heavens, Get the picture. Mike take time and go read the Site and Article Martian posted for you brother read it carefully…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 1 month ago

    Chosenone………As i said they Just do not get it brother. They are like the blind leading the blind. It just has not been given them or they could easily see these things. IMOpeace and love to you and yours…………………………..gene

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    ED J………Yes so what your Point? peace and love……………………gene

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    ED J……….We can always count on you to be a fly in the ointment right. Your time would be better spent getting rid of you stupid numbering system and turning to the truth of GOD' S Word. Rather to going on a witch hunt and trying to fault others. IMOpeace and love…………………..gene

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    ED J………..I would venture to say you know not different either. IMOpeace and love……………………..gene

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    ED j……..Don't need to go there, I know GOD is Spirit, in fact he consists of SEVEN SPIRITS we are told. These are SEVEN DISTINCT (INTELLECTS) and they go to and for through out all the earth. These make GOD omnipresent in His creation. God is pure spirit he does not have a body he exists in his creation. Jesus said He gave proverbs,…[Read more]

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    Mike……….It doesn't hert to encourage the brethren when they present and advance good understandings. If you have read Matian's Post and the (SITE) he ask you to read things might have begin to fall into place for you brother. Listen Jesus was sent after he was Baptized in the Jordan out into the world, But He was indeed (FOREORDAINED) No…[Read more]

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    To All………The Holy Spirit (IS) an (IT) , (IT) is the SPIRIT (INTELLECT) of the TRUTH one opf the seven spirit (intellects) of GOD, (IT) gives us awareness of Truth, Now (IF) you speak against (IT) (the spirit of truth) you can NOT be forgiven now or in time to come, why because truth (IS) truth it doesn't change never. The Pharisees were…[Read more]

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    Mike ………..We are waiting on your response brother. If you get ride of your Preconceived Ideologies and begin anew you will begin to see Jesus (EXACTLY) as one of Us and the encouragement will greatly increase in you. Mike Jesus was indeed in rank ahead of John the Baptist and this is exactly what John was talking about as martian explained…[Read more]

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    martian…………Good post brother, i like your through method of explaining these scriptures, Keep up the good work brother. Who know who might come to see thing about Jesus existence in a more clearer light brother. I am not as Scholarly as you are, but the spirit has shown me these thing are true and that what you are posting here on this…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 1 month ago

    Chosenone……..As i said before they Just don't get it, they have been prevented from seeing the truth. It is apparent they have no understanding (IN) them or they could easily see these things. They will not answer you Quoted scriptures because they can't , they can only just through out non scriptural ignorant commits. Haven't you notices they…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 1 month ago

    ED J……..Adding word into scriptures and forcing the text to fit you dogmas is hardly what a true seeker of the truth would do, Jesus did the will of GOD Because GOD (was (IN) him. “FOR HE (GOD) WORK IN US BOTH TO (WILL) AND DO OF HIS (GOD'S) GOOD PLEASURE”> Misquoting and misrepresenting scriptures is far from the truth. You have yet to…[Read more]

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    Mike………..Brother to see Jesus as anything but a human being is to deny the work of GOD (IN) humanity and not only that but it denies Jesus' work as our (EXACT) example. You are not only denying God but Jesus Also. It is Antichrist to see Jesus as anything other then a Human being. IMOpeace and love……………………………gene

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 30 2010,14:33)What I say is that Jesus not having a human father makes him DIFFERENT from all of us as humans.  You guys WANT Jesus to be exactly the same as you to the point you will ignore or butcher clear scriptures.  But it is all in vain, for Jesus did NOT have a human father like all of us, so he NEVER was “exactly t…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 29 2010,13:39)And that sums up you guy's thinking in a nutshell.  Do you think you must be curcified on a cross too, Martian?  I've already told you guys, you lost before you started.  Jesus did NOT have a human father, so you are NOT the same as Jesus.  Give it up.Mike……..So are we to conclude the same about Adam and…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 29 2010,13:24)Quote (martian @ July 29 2010,03:33)Many manuscripts read laid aside his privledges instead of emptied himself.Post one.  And along with it, post the definitions of the Greek words.Thanks,mikeMike………..sorry for the mix up brother. Peace and love……………gene

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    Mike……….being called a word of something does (NOT) equate those words as YOUR Words. Jesus Spoke to us God's Words not His words. Just believe what he said> “the word i am telling you are (NOT) (MY) Words.” remember him saying that?, now the question is do you really believe what Jesus said? and again, God spoke to us through the prophets…[Read more]

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    Quote (martian @ July 29 2010,11:13)5Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God,    did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, 7but made himself nothing,    taking the form of a servant,    being made in human likeness.Since Mike will not continue I guess I will.All scripture is go…[Read more]

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