Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2010,14:25)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 17 2010,02:55)Mike…………Yes even that Spider you killed had spirit in it or it could not live, all life has spirit (a working intellect) in it. And it all comes from ONE GOD that is in ALL things. There is not such thing as a SPIRIT BODY, there is SPIRIT (IN) BODIES, even Angels…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 17 2010,13:19)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 17 2010,02:55)Mike…………Yes even that Spider you killed had spirit in it or it could not live, all life has spirit (a working intellect) in it. And it all comes from ONE GOD that is in ALL things.No Gene, the spider is not God.  All things live because of the spirit God GAVE…[Read more]

Mike…………Yes even that Spider you killed had spirit in it or it could not live, all life has spirit (a working intellect) in it. And it all comes from ONE GOD that is in ALL things. There is not such thing as a SPIRIT BODY, there is SPIRIT (IN) BODIES, even Angels have bodies , the only thing that can live outside and inside a body is GOD…[Read more]

JA…………….I totally agree with you on that. lets see how Mike can override that and keep this going to further is preexistence ideologies going. peace and love…………………………………………………gene

Adam………..Good post brother, your sound reasoning is needed here brother, your force us to all think and concentrate more on what we read in scriptures, Critical reading is good because it cause us to compare and draw a more accurate understanding. IMOpeace and love to you and yours Adam………………………………………………..gene

T8……….Then if YOU are the responsible Party , and it totally depend on you , then you must recieve the GLORY not GOD for you salvation, because it was achieved by your (OWN) So-Called “FREE” WILL, a Will apart from GOD WILL> you have cut yourself off from GOD good luck your going to need it.But to all who trust in GOD and His WILL…….>…[Read more]

Mike………When you wake up, think about this very simple scripture . “HEAR O ISREAL THE LORD (YHWH, OR JEHOVAH) OUR (GOD) IS ONE LORD YHWH OR JEHOVAH. Notice it does not say the God our GOD is One GOD, No it say the LORD our GOD is one LORD. Remember it say as for Gods there are Gods many, but unto (US) there is ONlY one GOD, that is the LORD,…[Read more]

Irene………….IF you were God and wanted every one to be exactly like you are , you say God does not want Puppets, but GOD does want to live HIS LIFE LIVED IN ALL AND THROUGH ALL> So let GOD make me his Puppet then. And all “FREE” WILLER'S are FREE FROM GOD then, unless they by their own “FREE” WILLS come to DECIDE they will Accept GOD on…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 15 2010,18:21)Is this topic still being debated.Gene. Your doctrine makes it silly to even argue against people who believe in free will because according to your doctrine, they are not freely choosing to do so. So do you believe your own doctrine? If so, why do you persist in trying to convince people to your way of thinking if…[Read more]

Adam…………Interesting Pierre say your will must Die, but yet holds on to “FREE WILL” teachings and self choice salvation. We are indeed saved by Grace and that grace has nothing to do with our so-called “FREE” Wills at all, because there exists no such thing as a will that is “FREE” in the first place. IMOpeace and lvoe to you and…[Read more]

Shimmer……………Yes God is Spiirt , according to Jesus, and there are seven spirits (distinct intellects) composing that one GOD and these Spirit gives Life to the whole creation, these are the US spoken of in Genesis that created everything that exists, they go to and fro through the whole earth they are the omnipresences of GOD in all…[Read more]

Kerwin……….Angels do have Bodies because GOD give them bodies and give everyone a body just as he pleases, they are visible bodies and can actually be seen maybe not in our visual spectrum unless God lets us see that spectrum. Like Elijah was able to see in. but they have to have bodies of some kind. And God Make there spirits (intellects) in…[Read more]

Mike…………….JA may be having second thoughts on that it appears. I could be wrong but i see him gaining enlightment on this, will see.peace and love……………………………..gene

Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 15 2010,05:35)To All,Have I been missing something here.What does Romans 1:3-4 say…That Jesus is declared Son of God according to the Spirit of Holiness, by the RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD.Why have we been missing this for all this time….and all this discussion and debate…and there it was all the time….Mike, what you…[Read more]

Mike………….Was Jesus (always) superior? yes in the Plan and Will of GOD , but you have never proved he Preexisted his life on earth or preexisted in heaven as anything , you now say he was not angel as JA think, So then exactly what was he then? Please produce scripture the show what he was and what kind of creature of Spirit was he, what…[Read more]

T8……Both the first three verses you quoted show position and authority (ONLY) they do not Change Jesus Identity FROM Us as a Human Being who came into existence at His berth on earth.The last has nothing to do with Jesus it is talking about the ATTRIBUTE OF WISDOM, being (PERSONIFIED) ,and even is being personified as a SHE, and we all know…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 14 2010,07:50)Barley,Philippians 2:15 was a good scripture to answer the question about the light coming into the world. The Holy Spirit is the light within us that makes us a light unto the world.Kerwin………Preexistences alway want to try to (SEPARATE) Jesus from our Identity with Him , so they quote scriptures that show…[Read more]

Quote (barley @ Nov. 14 2010,04:22)[  Your ability to divert people's attention from the true meaning of those scriptures is most remarkable.  barleybarely………Thank God you can see that to, Terricca is a master at diversion and twisting what is being said. He cause more confusion and obscurity of things being posted and said here by far t…[Read more]

To All…………Spirit does not procreate it self because Spirit is the force that produces thought it is not Physical , nor can be Physically seen. But it is Power that can and does (DRIVE) Procreation in the Physical realm. It is what makes the difference between animate and inanimate things, like a SOUL is a BODY+SPIRIT in it. This is what…[Read more]

JA………….Jesus was never a angel, he was a human being and became a so of GOD at the Jordan river by recieving the Holy Spirit into him, at that point GOD the FATHER was (IN) HIM> He is and was absolutely no different then we are. Except he is the (FIRST) from man Kind to achieve the Goal God has for all man kind. As Far as the angle thing…[Read more]