Kerwin………I agree with Shimmer and JA and Adam on this one too. Ghosts and Apparitions and Phantoms simply are not real brother. IMO What Shimmer was talking about the power of the mind is true. Once when i was about 12 years old my bike had a flat and it was one of those vere very foggy nights where you could hardly see a few feet in front…[Read more]

To All………….Another part of “MYSTERY” religion IS TO ASSUME A SPIRIT (IS) A BODY , Nothing cane be further from the truth . Spirits EXISTS (IN) BODIES they are not bodies they exist (IN) them, GOD the FATHER was Truly (IN) Jesus NOT GOD the SPIRIT BODY. BUT GOD who is a Spiirt (intellect) was (IN) Jesus. Remember “THE FATHER WHO IS (IN) ME…[Read more]

JA and Adam…………..Spirit is the life source of any body, it animates and maintains the body it is in , that is why GOD said he need to separate Adam and from the tree of life. The metaphor for a tree is, (that which produces from self) , There is a tree (that which produces from itself) (LIFE) and Had Adam accessed it he would have had…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 16 2010,20:40)Goll,I feel that we need to be careful how we agree and disagree here between Gene, you and me.We sedm to be agreeing that Jesus rose in the same body that he went into the grave with.This is entirely true, as the Scriptures say, 'God did not allow Jesus' body to see curruption in the grave'.Jesus further…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 16 2010,11:44)And what about my thoughts on the matter?  There is nothing in scripture that says Jesus couldn't have been raised with an earthly body that was then transformed into a spiritual body upon his ascension into heaven, right?Mike………> Point is there is no scripture that say he did change into a different…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 16 2010,11:22)Hi brother Gene,But Jesus' body was not destroyed or corrupted in the grave but he rose with the same body with wounds and holes as per Gospels and Acts. Is there a difference between what Paul said and Gospels claimed?Love and peaceAdamAdam………Remember Jesus never sinned so the curse of death was not on…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 16 2010,10:31)Poor Terrarica and Irene have bought a load of Mike's BullChips.See how Irene is trying to spend them….Terra..Terra…Terra…Could Terra…tell Irene what 'Terra' means…TerratoryTerratorialTerrestatialJA…………Now that is funny , you got me laughing over that one brother. But i am not trying to tare…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 16 2010,08:45)Irene,I am using the wording from 1 Corinthians 15 that speak of the natural body becoming the spiritual body and the perishable becomes the imperishable.  As for those who undergo the second death the whether they have a perishable or imperishable body is irrelevant as God can destroy anything he…[Read more]

To ALL……….Paul describes the celestial bodies as the sun moon and stars all Physical seen bodies and that was what he was talking about. Not some unseen “Spirit BODY”. Peace and lvoe to you all……………………………………………..gene

Adam…………I absolute do not think SPIRIT is FLESH at all. It is Not it is SPIRIT (INTELLECT) that resides (IN) all life forms in existence. If GOD were to retract his spirit all things that has life (IN) them would die. My argument is SPIRIT is NOT a body nor doest it HAVE a BODY of any kind, it is what is (IN) Bodies. WE all have Spirit…[Read more]

Kerwin………Even the Sabbath when seen from a spiritual point of view we must keep, i am not talking about the Physical sabbath. This is what i mean. GOD said the sabbath was a (SIGN) between him and his people, so what sign is it . it is the sign of (HOW) our Salvation works, it work by us ceasing from OUR WORKS driven BY our own captivated…[Read more]

Choseone ………..Right on brother.peace and love to you and yours……………………………………gene

Mike……… Why change the wording Where Jesus said (A SPIRIT) does not have flesh and Bone as you see I HAVE. I notices you replaced the word (A) SPIRIT with (THEY) (as representing a Person of some type). And you talk about other changing words but you sure have not problem doing it right? Jesus did not say a SPIRIT (BEING) does not have…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 15 2010,18:01)Mike Boll,I read what you wrote and these are the comments that come to my mind.You seem unable to understand the concept that there is both natural flesh, bone, and blood and spiritual flesh, bone, and blood.   One major difference between spiritual flesh and natural flesh is that spiritual fleshy is cannot…[Read more]

Adam…………..Well said, free will thinking is a major stumbling block to Christians, it cause people to self focus and give credit for life and righteousness to the self, displacing GOD as the Source of Life and eternal righteousness, by reducing his power of salvation and puts it into the hands of Man. And as you have brought out a Choice of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 14 2010,11:55)You say I'm understanding “spiritual body” wrong.  But as I see it, an “earthly body” would contain an earthly being in it.  And a “spiritual body” would contain a spirit being in it.You have not shown me any scriptural reason to belio teve otherwise.Mike………..OK here is your reason to believe o…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 13 2010,11:51)So I agree Paul is talking about BODIES being sown imperishable and being raised imperishable.  But don't forget that the body that was sown a natural body will be raised a SPIRITUAL BODY.  So what's your point?  Mike………..SO WHAT MY POINT? surely you jest, My POINT is that we are resurected with a (r…[Read more]

JA……………Your explanation has merit, to some degree anyway, but what do you do where Paul says that we be not found unclothed. as it appears a spirit it , in you explanation. Don't you think a body is important? if not then why did God create one in the first place?. What good is spirit (intellect) if it does not animate anything , if just…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 13 2010,10:21)Irene, Mike and Ed.  Ok. I will post this and then it's all I have to say on this topic really this time I mean it. I dont agree with everything writen here but it has some points.Flesh and Blood cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven http://www.letusreason.org/JW12.htmMany cult groups and cultic interpretations…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 13 2010,09:59)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2010,05:42)Mike here is another point you need to consider why would Jesus tell his disciples that every hair in there heads were numbered, what for or what would be the point for them to be numbers if not to be reconstructed at a latter date.Hi Gene,Jesus is telling us how…[Read more]