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    Mike……….YOU could not be more wrong even if you tried to be. There are no SATAN ANGLES that is Just part of MYSTERY RELIGION . there is (NO) SATAN (BEING) with a body going around jumping in and out of People . When Jesus called PETER Satan, was he Satan MIKE, Jesus said he was. The word SATAN means (adversary) and anyone can be an…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 22 2010,11:04)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 22 2010,03:01)The reason John the Baptiste was not greater then Jesus was because John did not have the full anointing of GOD Spirit placed on HIM as Jesus did, and He was not the one called to the glory of being the first born from among Men to be born into the kingdom of GOD…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 23 2010,09:27)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 23 2010,01:44)The whole concept of Spirits having bodies is false, Spirits have NO BODIES Spirit is what is (IN) Bodies,Gene says:  Angels DO have bodies.Gene says:  Jesus DOES have a body.Gene says:  Spirits DON'T have bodies.Scripture says:  Angels ARE spirits.Scripture says:  Je…[Read more]

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    shimmer……….They Just do not get it!, i can't believe how something so simple can be so confusing to people. Just put (ALL) the Scriptures together and they will have the answer. Was God (IN) Jesus? Yes he was according to Jesus, NOW is GOD SPIRIT? YES HE IS, according to Jesus, Now was GOD who is Spirit, a Body (IN) the BODY of Jesus,…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 23 2010,01:45)sorry for the mix up……….gene

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    TO ALL…………..”DESTROY THIS TEMPLE AND IN THREE DAYS I SHALL RAISE IT UP”. That TEMPLE was Jesus' BODY and it was destroyed and was raised up again. Just as scripture say (IT) (the body) was.  All this is simple to understand it takes no special understanding to comprehend it. Jesus' body died on the cross and was raised three days later,…[Read more]

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    Quote (barley @ Dec. 19 2010,04:05)Quote (sunnyb @ Sep. 03 2002,12:02)in I John 1:5, the bible says that “God is light and in him is no darkness at all”.  I cannot figure out how then we can attribute a place of suffering for anything other than the spirits under lucifers control and people's spirits born of lucifers seed.  We are basically come i…[Read more]

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    Kerwin………….Anyone can if the look hard enough find something that counteracts plain scriptures , We all can see GOD (IN) the FLESH in the eye of our MINDS, But still in the Flesh body. GOD is Spirit and can only be see that way now and by the Glory he is able to demonstrate in his creation for ever. It never ceases to amaze me how these…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 8 months ago

    Irene………..You do not believe Jesus came into existence as a Human being , you believe he was a there as a disguised Past existing being just as the Gnostic's did, the only difference is that you think he was “Morphed” into a human being from a past existence, While they believed he just appeared as a Human being but was really not , but the…[Read more]

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    LU………..> The reason John the Baptiste was not greater then Jesus was because John did not have the full anointing of GOD Spirit placed on HIM as Jesus did, and He was not the one called to the glory of being the first born from among Men to be born into the kingdom of GOD Jesus was given that calling before he ever came into existence the…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 8 months ago

    Irene…………………The spirit (intellect) of Antichrist is the Spirit the Separates Jesus from our (exact) identity, rather you see it or not , does not change what it is. It was to deny Jesus was a completely flesh existing Being , born into existence just as we are,  a Seed of the women promised by GOD that would come, be born from her,…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 21 2010,18:04)To all,According to Shimmer’s source scripture state the following:Quote Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. – Isa 26:19This sounds like the account of the r…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Baker @ Dec. 21 2010,05:44)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 21 2010,03:19)Irene ………… There is NO CLEAR Scripture that say Jesus preexisted His Earthly existence other then in the Plan and Will of GOD.  If there are Show me what his mane was and what work he did, CLEARLY not by conjectures you and others make. Where is your *TRUE*…[Read more]

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    Mike………..So in your opinion Jesus was lying when he prayed, “they KINGDOM (COME) thy Will Be DONE (ON EARTH) AS it is in HEAVEN” Right? Because flesh and blood can't be in the kingdom of GOD Right. So the only ones who can be in the kingdom of GOD must drift off onto Heaven some where right, in order to be in the Kingdom of GOD. While it is…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 8 months ago

    Irene ………… There is NO CLEAR Scripture that say Jesus preexisted His Earthly existence other then in the Plan and Will of GOD. If there are Show me what his mane was and what work he did, CLEARLY not by conjectures you and others make. Where is your *TRUE* PROOFS. Don't give me scriptures that you and other can force the text to (IMPLY)…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2010,12:23)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 20 2010,11:53)Mike…………In case you not understanding as it appears , I will repeat it to you . Angels are (NOT) Spirits they Have SPIRITS (IN) themHebrews 1:14 NIVAre not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?Shimmer and Gene, what is…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 8 months ago

    To All……………..The complete teaching of Jesus Preexistence is a fabricated LIE, derived from the false teaching of the Gnostic's first, then to the Trinitarians, and both of these false teachings provided the foundation for the false teachings of Preexistence of Jesus, they both remove Jesus from our exact likeness and distant Him from the…[Read more]

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    LU…………….Yes we could conjecture all kind of thing and that is exactly what Gnostic's ,Trinitarians and Preexistences have done But we also have scriptures that Say GOD (ALONE AND BY HIMSELF) created the world and everything in it. Now one has shown any activity by Jesus at all in scripture before his berth on earth, Just conjectures…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2010,11:23)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 20 2010,10:51)Spirit does not have a BODY IT IS WHAT LIVES (IN) BODIES,Why Gene?  Why?Why do you keep posting the same thing when you agree that angels have bodies and scripture says angels ARE spirits?You agree that Jesus has a body, and scripture says Jesus IS now a spirit.I…[Read more]

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    Mike………..What makes you so different then the Gnostic's, there end was to separate Jesus from Human Likeness, and that was what John was driving at by them being Antichrist, you on the other had say He came from GOD as a demigod or super Angel or something and was morphed into a flesh as some kind of disguise to imitate a Man and then he…[Read more]

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