Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 25 2010,06:54)Hi Mike,Glad to see you are relenting…good.Anyway it comes.Wouldn't it have been much easier just to have done so from the start…?Oh, ok…you had to 'put your hand into the holes' in your arguments before you could realise that they were real…Now, just one more step…Mike, 'Spiritual' does not mean…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 25 2010,06:27)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 25 2010,05:28)Mike……….You could not be more Wrong,  as you are about other things , My Dad was a Baptist and then left that church and believed (but never joined) the WWCOG , Both of those churches believed in the Preexistence of Jesus,Ahhhhhh.  So your Dad had it right all a…[Read more]

To All………….IT is sown in weakness < now what is the (IT)? the Body, IT (the body is raised in power) It (our bodies) was sown a NATURAL BODY, (IT) the new BODY is a SPIRITUAL "BODY: A spirit does not have a BODY SPirit exists (IN) BODIES, SPIRIT in it simplest form is simply the INTELLECT that is (IN) A BODY. What make you people believe…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 25 2010,03:11)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 23 2010,14:53)Milke ……….Unlike you i have been reading and studying the word of GOD sense my childhood about sense i was about ten years old and as a teenager studied with my Father, who would talk about  the word of GOD  all the time,Ahhhhhh!  And there we have it.  I wou…[Read more]

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Georg………..ME, Believing Scripture has nothing to do with it  you and others twisting of what scripture is saying is the problem here. Like your saying Jesus does not have a Flesh and Bone body as Jesus said He had, and Jesus also said a spirit does not have a body as (HE HAS) and He proved it was a BODY by letting the apostle Thomas  touch H…[Read more]

To All………….interesting most of the people that quote that don't cast you pearls before swines are the most confused of all, IMO> If a person is making a claim to something they seem to think they know then they need to produce it with clear accurate scripture understanding , not conjectures or it could mean this or that, but the more sure…[Read more]

To All……If Jesus said his disciples were from above as he was , then does that also mean they came down from above too when they were on the earth with him? Need scripture i can post them for you all, but try first to see if this is right yourselves first. peace and love……………………………gene

Mike……….Isn't my above post the way you see it also, as well as all trinitarians too. Don't you all believe Jesus represented something different then humanity don't you all SEPARATE JESUS from our Identity as a fellow Human being . Don't you all praise Jesus as something different then us humans, Don't you all believe Jesus succeeded…[Read more]

EDJ………..Slight misquote, it says GOD has Put ALL THING UNDER HIM “MANS” FEET, NOT JESUS' EXCEPT AS HE is PERTAINS TO “MAN” BEING A SON OF MAN also. Jesus is Just the First from Man to gain that position many will also gain it. Go to genesis and it will tell you GOD put all thing under mans feet or control there to. NO ANGLE HAS BEEN…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 23 2010,20:02)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 24 2010,02:01)Pierre, They could be allegories to some extent but some extent is literal as well since Jesus told the believing thief that was on one of the crosses adjacent to him that they would meet in Paradise that day.   I know that Jesus would die and lay in the grave that day.…[Read more]

Shimmer……….. WE all need to stand back and make sound sense out of what we are saying, and try to see the overall picture about the Gospel , like what is it s purpose , who is it dealing with (preexisting beings or Mankind) what purpose was GOD the Father effecting for all mankind by the MAN Jesus a SON OF MAN, Who became perfected by GOD to…[Read more]

T8…………> Thanks, i now can straighten out some of my misspelling and left out words i make in my posting, my eye aren't the best anymore.peace and love to you and yours……………………………………..gene

David……….So When Jesus told Thomas to feel his body that was a Ghost and was Not his real body right ?, and where scripture say GOD would not allow his SOUL (body) to see CORRUPTION that was false also right , because his Body did corrupt right? Why can't anyone just post a scripture that say Jesus was raised without a Physical BODY, funny…[Read more]

To……….> Terricca , EDJ, Kerwin, Tim, we are all saying the same thing GOD Through His Spirit Put His Laws in our Heart by a new Nature he creates (IN) US. “FOR I WILL TAKE OUT OF YOU THE HEART OF STONE AND GIVE YOU A HEART OF FLESH (soft heart), and again the LORD (WORKS) (IN) US Both to WILL and DO OF (HIS) GOOD PLEASURE. This should be…[Read more]

To All………..The word Hell is also another of the many many confusion brought on by false Christianity. The word HELL simply means GRAVE, and if GOD does not resurrect us after we die and our Body corrupts back into the ground we simply will never live again , unless he raises up a body and adds Spirit (intellect) back into it we will never…[Read more]

Mike………A good example is look at JA and Irene on the Lucifer thing that word Lucifier is only mentioned ONCE in the entire bible, at a Place that calls him a MAN in a Prophesy that was to go to the King of Babylon. But because of some of the language and how it is written in a metaphorical sense Now this “MAN” called a (Rising Sta) a…[Read more]

Milke ……….Unlike you i have been reading and studying the word of GOD sense my childhood about sense i was about ten years old and as a teenager studied with my Father, who would talk about the word of GOD all the time, I studied various church teachings but never Joined a church until i was around thirty years old and have heard all…[Read more]

Mike………..Spiirt is the Intellect of the Mind it is acquired by exposure of a person to it. There is a Spirit (intellect) of or from the world , there is a SPIRIT(intellect) of or from GOD, one is from below and one is from above . Or better put one is lower intellect and the other is higher intellect. If a person is from GOD he has a higher…[Read more]