Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2010,10:47)1. Of or relating to the sky or the heavens: Planets are celestial bodies.2. (Astronomy) of or relating to the sky celestial bodies–adjective. 1. pertaining to the sky or visible heaven. 2.Mike……….Seeing Paul said CELESTIAL “BODIES”  And the Word originated as CELESTIA a LATIN word for (SKY) or the He…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2010,10:47)1. Of or relating to the sky or the heavens: Planets are celestial bodies.2. (Astronomy) of or relating to the sky celestial bodies–adjective. 1. pertaining to the sky or visible heaven. 2.Mike……….Seeing Paul said CELESTIAL “BODIES” And the Word originated as CELESTIA a LATIN word for (SKY) or the H…[Read more]

EdJ………….You are in error about Tyndale , the King James is a bible the is Half Catholic and Tyndale. King Jame had it translated to appease both the Catholics and the Protestants in England, that is why there is so much confusion in it. I have Just recently seen a complete documentary on Tyndale and His translation of Scriptures is…[Read more]

EGJ………..”ALL THE LAW IS “FULFILLED” IN (ONE) WORD you shall love you neighbor as yourself”. If the love of God is in your Heart you are not a doer of the law by (OBEDIENCE) Through the (Works) of Law (forced compliance) but by a New CREATION of GOD, you have become the righteousness of the law , because God has written it (IN) your Hearts…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,11:12)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 29 2010,09:53)Shimmer…………I did not always agree with JA on everything , BUT i did see his points and they were good i must say most of the time, He had good English logic and i like that in a person but even more he had Salt and i even like that more , he was humorous at times…[Read more]

Irene………That is your problem taking the advice of a Novice and not letting the spirit of truth guide you. And Mike is right You should all Mike and Irene and Terricca, save your breath that is for sure there would be a whole lot less confusion here from your deluded minds. IMOpeace and love……………………………..gene

Shimmer…………I did not always agree with JA on everything , BUT i did see his points and they were good i must say most of the time, He had good English logic and i like that in a person but even more he had Salt and i even like that more , he was humorous at times and some things he said really made me brake out laughing. He just became…[Read more]

To All…………One thing i have noticed Here over the years people tend to say what Scripture does not (SPECIFICALLY) SAY. They add to what is written and hunt for words that sometimes are there, but translated into 40 or in some cases 70 different ways in the text and then try to use those words as a proof text to support their own dogmas ,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 28 2010,01:53)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 28 2010,01:29)JA………..This i agree with you on Celestial means heaven (ly) bodies like the moon, sun and stars. Terrestrial comes from the word (Terra)  meaning  Earth or dirt, land., I have been through this before with Irene and she just does not understand it and it a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2010,11:50)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2010,10:49)those meanings are spirits,thouthts,and can not be percieved with the eyes of flesh but with the eyes of the spirit of your hearth,Yes, this is what I mean with the “prism” analogy.  God can let a human being see with spirit eyes instead of human ones when He chooses to…[Read more]

To All……………..Celestrial according to http//wordnet web. Princeston.edu/peyl/wdbum……….Web Net Search 3.0 word to search for Keys:= show Syns (semantic) Relations w:2 show word Lexical Relations (NOUN) S: (N) CELESTIAL BODY, HEAVENLY BODY, (NATURAL OBJECTS VISIBLE IN THE SKY)> Notice it say VISIBLE OBJECTS not (INVISIBLE OBJECTS)…[Read more]

MIke………….. Don't know what dictionary you guise are using but my say they are Heavenly (BODIES). Go out and by a Celestial telescope and look through it and tell us if you are seeing any invisible bodies out there in space. Celestial simply means Heavenly BODIES. And why do you think Paul went on to even clarify what he was talking about,…[Read more]

Mike ………..Are you changing you views now , it seem you are, by now saying Jesus was raised in a flesh body and went to heaven in that body , not a spirit body. as you used to claim. Mike nothing can exist outside of a body as a (BEING) except spirits (intellects) AND GOD WHO IS A SPIRIT, who can live inside a Body or outside of One AS ALL…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 28 2010,01:14)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 27 2010,14:17)Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 25 2010,20:07)Hi Ed. So, do you believe Jesus was risen in the flesh or Spirit ? A simple yes or no will do, thanks.       Yes; um a, I mean No;   …hey wait a minute, this question can't be answered yes or no!Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 201…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 27 2010,15:58)If I am to be blocked for saying IRENE LIED that “CELESTIAL means Spirit” when her evidence is faulty in the extreme least, and discreitable in teh seconf=d term and almost outlandish in the first, then Block on… I have not even been able to find the quote that she posted in any dictionay I looked at…EVERY…[Read more]

To all…………..Here is what in the above post i was  referring to. John 17:16…….> They are not (of) the world, (EVEN) as (I) am not (of) the world.  Was Jesus any different then this disciples were ?, look up the word (OF) for you answer and you will find it means (place of origin). So where was their (the disciples place of origin) Not f…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 25 2010,17:41)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 20 2010,04:07)Georg………I am not trying to confuse anyone.  Your believe Spirit (just means) “invisible” is in error , spirit is far more then just meaning invisible. Spirit is invisible though that is true, Just as thoughts are invisible but yet thought drive our whole being . So…[Read more]

To All……….The whole concept of Flesh and blood can't enter the kingdom of Heaven , has nothing to do with flesh and blood going into outer space at all. What it has to do with is that the flesh and blood part of Man in not capable of entering the kingdom of GOD, because flesh and blood is not (Spirit), Spirit is what is (IN) flesh and…[Read more]

JA………….You have not proof scripturally a BODY (physical matter) of a different type, can't inter Heaven that is a conjecture on you part, IMOpeace and love……………………………….gene

TO ALL……………Jesus is NOT A SPIRIT “BODY” NOW and NEVER WAS SPIRIT “BODY because a SPIRIT does NOT HAVE a BODY IT EXISTS (IN) BODIES, Simple common sense should tell everyone that. NO ONE IS SPIRIT Except GOD ALONE. Jesus has a (Physical Body) with Spirit (IN) IT. Jesus clearly said He was (NOT) a SPIRIT of any kind. This false teachings…[Read more]